<div dir="ltr">I can't remain silent anymore, IMHO, this is getting a pure waste of time, effort and it's totally useless if you ask me.<br>My friend Lance here has explained why he can't use bottom post instead of top post. What is so hard about that to understand?<br>
I mean, seriously? is it that important? do I have to change my Email address or install a plugin or do whatever has been suggested just to make it easier for some people to understand what I'm talking about? isn't that a waste of time for me? so I save their time and waste mine? where is the logic in this for God's sake?<br>
Instead of wasting our time in this talk, why not to talk about a better topic or issue?<br>Example?<br><br>Has anyone noticed that whenever someone sends an email to the mailing list asking about anything:<br>1- The discussion will NEVER reach to a final decision or solution MOST of the time and very few will end with a clear solution and understandable decision.<br>
2- No matter what the topic is, someone will go off-topic and talk about something else<br>3- Some are talking about guidelines or whatever you call it and they don't follow that themselves<br><br>So what is going on here?<br>
<br>Can't we really manage to fix that?<br><br>Just for the record:<br>1- With Forums, whenever you quote a post, your post will be a bottom post and that is the case in Ubuntu Forum.<br>2- Even if that feature is not available, you still can do it.<br>
3- Ubuntu Forum at some point is much more organized than our mailing list - sad by true.<br>4- Whenever someone goes off-topic on Ubuntu Forum, not only admins but even user will stop him/her.<br><br>Shall I carry on?<br>
<br>PLEASE, don't be offended and don't get me wrong. I love you all, this is my 2nd family and I have made that clear 1000 times :) I do care about all of you and as a member of this family, I find it totally waste of time for what we are doing.<br>
<br>Lance is one of our best testers and without his efforts, we won't be wherever we are right now.<br>Others are doing a great job here too.<br>I'm JOBLESS for 4 years now and instead of finding a job, I'm killing myself to support Lubuntu as much as possible even when I'm sick, etc.<br>
<br>PLEASE, don't make it HARDER for those who LOVE this place and spend their days and nights over here to do something for this community. PLEASE!<br><br>I'm deeply sorry if my words hurt but I can't remain silent and if you think I'm too much for this, PLEASE remove me :)<br>
<br>Thank you!<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Lance <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lbsolost@yahoo.com" target="_blank">lbsolost@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font:inherit" valign="top">I'm actually looking at Thunderbird right now, no real reason why other than the fact that I already use Firefox, just decided to give it a look. Due to the dementia factor I'll have to say that IMHO it seems like an incredible waste of time.<br>
<br>How much time is available for me to waste? No one knows yet but, whether it's 6 months or 6 years, could the time be better spent? I always try to be polite and cordial in my messaging wherever it's done but apparently that's not quite enough :^(<br>
<br>Lance<br><br>--- On <b>Tue, 5/1/12, John Collins <i><<a href="mailto:johncollins.jd@gmail.com" target="_blank">johncollins.jd@gmail.com</a>></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16,16,255);margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px">
<br>From: John Collins <<a href="mailto:johncollins.jd@gmail.com" target="_blank">johncollins.jd@gmail.com</a>><div class="im"><br>Subject: Re: About my health, top posting vs bottom posting, and Ubuntu forums<br></div>
To:
<a href="mailto:mika.henrik.mainio@hotmail.com" target="_blank">mika.henrik.mainio@hotmail.com</a><br>Cc: <a href="mailto:lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br>Date: Tuesday, May 1, 2012, 8:51 AM<div>
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On 05/01/2012 06:43 AM, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
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<pre>01.05.2012 09:10, Jarno Suni kirjoitti:
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<pre>Yahoo Mail webmail top posts signature and quoted text*. You can disable
both, or use a proper mail client for your Yahoo Mail, or use a
different webmail account.
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<pre>As far as I know, Yahoo Mail wants payment before it allows users to use
anything else than the web interface.
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I would look into Zimbra Desktop. It is a proper email client and I
believe it allows you IMAP access to your free Yahoo account. The
reason is that Yahoo bought Zimbra a few years ago. Yahoo has since
sold Zimbra to VMWare, but I think Zimbra Desktop still provides
IMAP access to free Yahoo mail. Zimbra is free to download and
use. I used it until recently (not for a free yahoo account). I
found it to be quite a nice product. I ran it on Lubuntu - but I
recently noticed that there is no 64 bit linux version. However, I
ran the 32 bit version on a 64 bit machine without any issue. While
I didn't test it, I do remember Yahoo Mail as being one of the built
in account types that Zimbra automatically sync with. (I am not
affiliated with Zimbra or Yahoo).<br>
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Good luck<br>
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John Collins<br>
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