I totally agree we can all learn from different prospectives <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:59 AM, Phill Whiteside <<a href="mailto:PhillW@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">PhillW@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Jonathon, indeed, in any family there will dis-agreements. As you point out, these cases are specifically covered in the CoC. How else do we get new ideas? "There is more than one way to skin a cat", as the old saying goes [1]. Discussing their respective merits is important (although the cats used for testing, may disagree!) :) Regards, Phill. [1] <a href="http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/there-is-more-than-one-way-to-skin-a-cat.html" target="_blank">http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/there-is-more-than-one-way-to-skin-a-cat.html</a><div class="HOEnZb"> <div class="h5"> <div class="gmail_quote"> On 30 April 2012 10:19, Jonathan Marsden <<a href="mailto:jmarsden@fastmail.fm" target="_blank">jmarsden@fastmail.fm</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> On 04/29/2012 05:20 PM, Chris Druif wrote: > Also it doesn't look "professional" when the "experts" are > disagreeing in public. Just my thoughts. On the contrary, I'd suggest that a well run open source community consciously and deliberately conducts as much of its business as possible openly -- "in public". The less that we feel a need to hide concerning how we operate, the more transparent we can be, the better. For more on this as it relates to open source software projects, note that Chapter 2 of the book "Producing Open Source Software" by Karl Fogel includes a section titled "Avoid Private Discussions" that is very relevant. See <a href="http://producingoss.com" target="_blank">http://producingoss.com</a> , and in particular see <a href="http://producingoss.com/en/setting-tone.html#avoid-private-discussions" target="_blank">http://producingoss.com/en/setting-tone.html#avoid-private-discussions</a> . Of course, that does not mean we should be impolite or call each other names in public! Well-reasoned polite disagreement about relevant operational and technical matters within the team seems to me to be entirely reasonable and professional. Since we only have one mailing list, and have a community that is spread over many time zones, this one list is where that kind of team-internal discussion is most likely to happen. If the volume of such traffic becomes so large that it impedes use of the list for user questions and issues, we should of course create a new (but still open, public, archived) list to separate it out, as a matter of convenience and efficiency. Incidentally, in real face to face life, I have been known to disagree with my boss at work sometimes... is that "unprofessional" of me? I think much depends on *how* I disagree -- and I submit that the same is true online for the Lubuntu community. If you ever feel I have been rude to, or personally attacked, anyone in the Lubuntu community, please do "call me out" on that. I've signed the Code of Conduct, and I do my best to operate within it in the Ubuntu community. Jonathan -- Lubuntu-users mailing list <a href="mailto:Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users</a> </blockquote></div> </div></div>-- <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw</a> -- Lubuntu-users mailing list <a href="mailto:Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users</a> </blockquote></div> -- <div style="text-align:left">Sent by Ubuntu Linux </div>