<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"><html><head><meta content="text/html;charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"></head><body ><div style='font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;'><br><div id="1">Added :)<br>---- Aan Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:17:01 +0100 <b>Cyber Penguin <<a href='mailto:cyberpenguin1979@gmail.com' target='_blank'>cyberpenguin1979@gmail.com</a>></b> schreef ---- <br></div><br><blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid #0000FF; padding-left: 6px;"><div>Hi, regarding the wiki page</div><div><a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall" target="_blank">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall</a> :</div><div><br></div><div> Could somebody (with more knowledge than I) please add a section explaining the difference between lubuntu-desktop and lubuntu-core?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks in advance! </div><div><br></div><div>CP</div><div><br></div> <br><div>On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Phill Whiteside <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:PhillW@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">PhillW@ubuntu.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hi Chris,<div><br></div><div>please accept my apologies, I should have discussed what 12.04 needs with you and within your team before I went opening my mouth. I know that you guys are busily working through wiki pages. </div> <div><br></div><div>Ooops @ Phill.<div><div><br><br><div>On 10 February 2012 16:34, Phill Whiteside <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:PhillW@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">PhillW@ubuntu.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Julien <div><br></div><div>it was your good self who told me that I needed python-software-properties back in the days of about 10.04 :)</div><div><br></div><div>The minimal pages are at <a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall#A10.04_32_Bit" target="_blank">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall#A10.04_32_Bit</a></div> <div><br></div><div><a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall#A10.04_32_Bit" target="_blank"></a>Oh, happy days... when we flew by the seat of our pants and tried to get a set of instructions up for each release - warts and all!</div> <div><br></div><div>As I will most likely not be here for 12,04 - I'm trying to get some feel of what docs need updating for the new release. The minor edits can be done as we go, but 12.04 needs to start having a future foot-print in for the day of the release.</div> <div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Phill.<div><div><br><br><div>On 10 February 2012 15:25, Julien Lavergne <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gilir@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">gilir@ubuntu.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> The "massive" diff is the add of common desktop packages, used by all flavors : <a href="http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/platform.precise/view/head:/desktop-common" target="_blank">http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/platform.precise/view/head:/desktop-common</a><br> <br> Except cups (which is a recommend) I can't see anything problematic. Most of them are stuff that IMO common users should not have to deal with.<br> <br> Regards,<br> Julien Lavergne<br> <br> Le 02/10/2012 04:09 PM, Chris a écrit : <div><div><blockquote type="cite"> <p>This might be a better place to start this discussion concerning the ubuntu-core meta-package. <br> If we look at [1] && [2] we see a MASSIVE increase in dependencies and even recommends for the first time. I don't think this it the situation we want? Is this change by accident or on purpose?</p> <p>And to reply to phillw: I think the prefered situation should be "sudo apt-get install lubuntu-core" "sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop --no-install-recommends" && "sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop" but that is dependent on the results to the above question.</p> <p>[1] <a href="http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/lubuntu-core" target="_blank">http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/lubuntu-core</a><br> [2] <a href="http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/lubuntu-core" target="_blank">http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/lubuntu-core</a></p> <br> <div>On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 16:03, Julien Lavergne <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gilir@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">gilir@ubuntu.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Why python-software-properties is needed ? Just using --no-install-recommends should work.<br> <br> Regards,<br> Julien Lavergne<br> <br> Le 02/10/2012 12:06 AM, Phill Whiteside a écrit : <div> <div> <blockquote type="cite">Hi Julien,<br> <br> with the removal of --no-install-recommends in 11.10 on the build, is the step for installing lubuntu-core / lubuntu-desktop for 11.10 of:<br> <br> sudo apt-get install python-software-properties<br> <br> still required?<br> <br> Also, I know we were discussing that <b>12.04</b> would have 3 'real' options (I do not really see the need for the other 2 possible variations). If they want to use --no-install-recommends for the lubuntu-core version will they need the python-software-properties adding to enable that option?<br> <br> <b>1) Slimmest core</b><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> <pre style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="2">sudo apt-get install python-software-properties <span></span>sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-core</font> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <span></span>sudo apt-get autoclean </pre> <b><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">2) Standard core</span></b><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> <pre style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span></span>sudo apt-get install lubuntu-core sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <span></span>sudo apt-get autoclean </pre> <br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> <b><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">3) Standard desktop</span></b><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> <pre style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <span></span>sudo apt-get autoclean</pre> <br> Thanks,<br> <br> Phill.<br> <br> <div>On 9 February 2012 16:25, Michael Rawson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michaelrawson76@gmail.com" target="_blank">michaelrawson76@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> Of course, as long as you have an internet connection. 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