<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"><html><head><meta content="text/html;charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"></head><body ><div style='font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;'><br><div id="1">Added :)<br>---- Aan Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:17:01 +0100 <b>Cyber Penguin <<a href='mailto:cyberpenguin1979@gmail.com' target='_blank'>cyberpenguin1979@gmail.com</a>></b> schreef ---- <br></div><br><blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid #0000FF; padding-left: 6px;"><div>Hi, regarding the wiki page</div><div><a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall" target="_blank">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall</a> :</div><div><br></div><div> Could somebody (with more knowledge than I) please add a section explaining the difference between lubuntu-desktop and lubuntu-core?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks in advance! </div><div><br></div><div>CP</div><div><br></div> <br><div>On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Phill Whiteside <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:PhillW@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">PhillW@ubuntu.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hi Chris,<div><br></div><div>please accept my apologies, I should have discussed what 12.04 needs with you and within your team before I went opening my mouth. I know that you guys are busily working through wiki pages. </div> <div><br></div><div>Ooops @ Phill.<div><div><br><br><div>On 10 February 2012 16:34, Phill Whiteside <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:PhillW@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">PhillW@ubuntu.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Julien <div><br></div><div>it was your good self who told me that I needed python-software-properties back in the days of about 10.04 :)</div><div><br></div><div>The minimal pages are at <a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall#A10.04_32_Bit" target="_blank">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall#A10.04_32_Bit</a></div> <div><br></div><div><a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall#A10.04_32_Bit" target="_blank"></a>Oh, happy days... when we flew by the seat of our pants and tried to get a set of instructions up for each release - warts and all!</div> <div><br></div><div>As I will most likely not be here for 12,04 - I'm trying to get some feel of what docs need updating for the new release. The minor edits can be done as we go, but 12.04 needs to start having a future foot-print in for the day of the release.</div> <div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Phill.<div><div><br><br><div>On 10 February 2012 15:25, Julien Lavergne <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gilir@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">gilir@ubuntu.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">              <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">     The "massive" diff is the add of common desktop packages, used by     all flavors :          <a href="http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/platform.precise/view/head:/desktop-common" target="_blank">http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/platform.precise/view/head:/desktop-common</a><br>     <br>     Except cups (which is a recommend) I can't see anything problematic.     Most of them are stuff that IMO common users should not have to deal     with.<br>     <br>     Regards,<br>     Julien Lavergne<br>     <br>     Le 02/10/2012 04:09 PM, Chris a écrit :     <div><div><blockquote type="cite">       <p>This might be a better place to start this discussion         concerning the ubuntu-core meta-package. <br>         If we look at [1] && [2] we see a MASSIVE increase in         dependencies and even recommends for the first time. I don't         think this it the situation we want? Is this change by accident         or on purpose?</p>       <p>And to reply to phillw: I think the prefered situation should         be "sudo apt-get install lubuntu-core" "sudo apt-get install         lubuntu-desktop --no-install-recommends" && "sudo         apt-get install lubuntu-desktop" but that is dependent on the         results to the above question.</p>       <p>[1] <a href="http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/lubuntu-core" target="_blank">http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/lubuntu-core</a><br>         [2] <a href="http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/lubuntu-core" target="_blank">http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/lubuntu-core</a></p>       <br>       <div>On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 16:03, Julien         Lavergne <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gilir@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">gilir@ubuntu.com</a>></span>         wrote:<br>         <blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">           <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Why             python-software-properties is needed ? Just using             --no-install-recommends should work.<br>             <br>             Regards,<br>             Julien Lavergne<br>             <br>             Le 02/10/2012 12:06 AM, Phill Whiteside a écrit :             <div>               <div>                 <blockquote type="cite">Hi Julien,<br>                   <br>                   with the removal of --no-install-recommends in 11.10                   on the build, is the step for installing lubuntu-core                   / lubuntu-desktop for 11.10 of:<br>                   <br>                   sudo apt-get install python-software-properties<br>                   <br>                   still required?<br>                   <br>                   Also, I know we were discussing that <b>12.04</b>                   would have 3 'real' options (I do not really see the                   need for the other 2 possible variations). If they                   want to use --no-install-recommends for the                   lubuntu-core version will they need the                   python-software-properties adding to enable that                   option?<br>                   <br>                   <b>1) Slimmest core</b><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">                   <pre style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="2">sudo apt-get install python-software-properties <span></span>sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-core</font> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <span></span>sudo apt-get autoclean </pre>                   <b><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">2)                       Standard core</span></b><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">                   <pre style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span></span>sudo apt-get install lubuntu-core sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <span></span>sudo apt-get autoclean </pre>                   <br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">                   <b><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">3)                       Standard desktop</span></b><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">                   <pre style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <span></span>sudo apt-get autoclean</pre>                   <br>                   Thanks,<br>                   <br>                   Phill.<br>                   <br>                   <div>On 9 February 2012 16:25,                     Michael Rawson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michaelrawson76@gmail.com" target="_blank">michaelrawson76@gmail.com</a>></span>                     wrote:<br>                     <blockquote style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> Of course, as                       long as you have an internet connection. The                       following command should install it:<br>                       <br>                       sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop<br>                       <div>                         <div><br>                           --<br>                           Lubuntu-users mailing list<br>                           <a href="mailto:Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br>                           Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users</a><br>                         </div>                       </div>                     </blockquote>                   </div>                   <br>                   <br clear="all">                   <br>                   -- <br>                   <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw</a><br>                 </blockquote>                 <br>               </div>             </div>           </div>           <br>           --<br>           Lubuntu-users mailing list<br>           <a href="mailto:Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br>           Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users</a><br>           <br>         </blockquote>       </div>       <br>     </blockquote>     <br>   </div></div></div> </blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div></div></div><span><font color="#888888">-- <br><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw</a><br> </font></span></div> </blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div></div></div><span><font color="#888888">-- <br><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw</a><br> </font></span></div> <br>--<br> Lubuntu-users mailing list<br>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