Hi Chris,<div><br></div><div>please accept my apologies, I should have discussed what 12.04 needs with you and within your team before I went opening my mouth. I know that you guys are busily working through wiki pages. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Ooops @ Phill.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 10 February 2012 16:34, Phill Whiteside <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:PhillW@ubuntu.com">PhillW@ubuntu.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Julien <div><br></div><div>it was your good self who told me that I needed python-software-properties back in the days of about 10.04 :)</div><div><br></div><div>The minimal pages are at <a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall#A10.04_32_Bit" target="_blank">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall#A10.04_32_Bit</a></div>
<div><br></div><div><a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall#A10.04_32_Bit" target="_blank"></a>Oh, happy days... when we flew by the seat of our pants and tried to get a set of instructions up for each release - warts and all!</div>
<div><br></div><div>As I will most likely not be here for 12,04 - I'm trying to get some feel of what docs need updating for the new release. The minor edits can be done as we go, but 12.04 needs to start having a future foot-print in for the day of the release.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Phill.<div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 10 February 2012 15:25, Julien Lavergne <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gilir@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">gilir@ubuntu.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
The "massive" diff is the add of common desktop packages, used by
all flavors :
<a href="http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/platform.precise/view/head:/desktop-common" target="_blank">http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/platform.precise/view/head:/desktop-common</a><br>
<br>
Except cups (which is a recommend) I can't see anything problematic.
Most of them are stuff that IMO common users should not have to deal
with.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Julien Lavergne<br>
<br>
Le 02/10/2012 04:09 PM, Chris a écrit :
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<p>This might be a better place to start this discussion
concerning the ubuntu-core meta-package. <br>
If we look at [1] && [2] we see a MASSIVE increase in
dependencies and even recommends for the first time. I don't
think this it the situation we want? Is this change by accident
or on purpose?</p>
<p>And to reply to phillw: I think the prefered situation should
be "sudo apt-get install lubuntu-core" "sudo apt-get install
lubuntu-desktop --no-install-recommends" && "sudo
apt-get install lubuntu-desktop" but that is dependent on the
results to the above question.</p>
<p>[1] <a href="http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/lubuntu-core" target="_blank">http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/lubuntu-core</a><br>
[2] <a href="http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/lubuntu-core" target="_blank">http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/lubuntu-core</a></p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 16:03, Julien
Lavergne <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gilir@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">gilir@ubuntu.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Why
python-software-properties is needed ? Just using
--no-install-recommends should work.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Julien Lavergne<br>
<br>
Le 02/10/2012 12:06 AM, Phill Whiteside a écrit :
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<blockquote type="cite">Hi Julien,<br>
<br>
with the removal of --no-install-recommends in 11.10
on the build, is the step for installing lubuntu-core
/ lubuntu-desktop for 11.10 of:<br>
<br>
sudo apt-get install python-software-properties<br>
<br>
still required?<br>
<br>
Also, I know we were discussing that <b>12.04</b>
would have 3 'real' options (I do not really see the
need for the other 2 possible variations). If they
want to use --no-install-recommends for the
lubuntu-core version will they need the
python-software-properties adding to enable that
option?<br>
<br>
<b>1) Slimmest core</b><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
<pre style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="2">sudo apt-get install python-software-properties
<span></span>sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-core</font>
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
<span></span>sudo apt-get autoclean
</pre>
<b><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">2)
Standard core</span></b><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
<pre style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span></span>sudo apt-get install lubuntu-core
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
<span></span>sudo apt-get autoclean
</pre>
<br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
<b><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">3)
Standard desktop</span></b><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
<pre style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
<span></span>sudo apt-get autoclean</pre>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Phill.<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 9 February 2012 16:25,
Michael Rawson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michaelrawson76@gmail.com" target="_blank">michaelrawson76@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> Of course, as
long as you have an internet connection. The
following command should install it:<br>
<br>
sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop<br>
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