[lubuntu-users] What happened?? apt freezes during dist-upgrade in kinetic??
Nio Wiklund
nio.wiklund at gmail.com
Sat Sep 10 18:55:26 UTC 2022
Hi Fritz,
This is what I think:
If the active grub is controlled by some other distro in a dual-boot or
multi-boot setup,
sudo update-grub
of Lubuntu will not upgrade which kernel it points to. You should boot
into the system that controls the active grub and run
sudo update-grub
or some corresponding command. Chances are that it will make Lubuntu
boot into the 5.19 kernel.
Best regards
Nio
Den 2022-09-10 kl. 20:27, skrev Fritz Hudnut:
> So, following up on my investigations . . . synaptic "kernels" does show
> "5.19" as "installed" . . . but uname -r still shows that 5.13 is being
> selected???
>
> I installed "mainline" some time back, but forgot how to use it . . .
> until I found the github page tabbed in FF. I ran a couple commands and
> it shows: [CODE] $ mainline --list-installed
> mainline 1.0.16
> Distribution: Ubuntu Kinetic Kudu (development branch)
> Architecture: amd64
> Running kernel: 5.13.0-16-generic
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Found installed: 5.19.0-15.15
> Found installed: 5.19.0.15.15
> Found installed: 5.13.0-16.16
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> [/CODE]
>
> I forget how to get it to switch the kernel . . . 5.19 is "installed"
> but grub is still selecting 5.13 . . . do I run "mainline
> --install-latest" to "reinstall" . . . or is this a grub error of some
> type???
>
> I went into grub's "advanced options" and it's only showing three
> options for 5.13 . . . I selected recovery and ran fsck which did
> nothing, and then dpkg . . . which also found nothing . . . . In the
> sense that the system is not finding anything "broken" . . . but it
> isn't sliding up to select 5.19 options . . . .
>
> F
>
> On Sat, Sep 10, 2022 at 8:35 AM Fritz Hudnut <este.el.paz at gmail.com
> <mailto:este.el.paz at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I jumped the queue and booted Lu this morning . . . it was still
> showing 5.13 as the kernel . . . ran a 93 package upgrade . . . no
> mention of a kernel in the list . . . went through w/o error . . . .
>
> Booted over into master grub control system . . . updated the grub
> bootloader . . . then back into Lu . . . ran another apt . . .
> couple packages to upgrade . . . nothing on the kernel.
>
> Uname -r still showing "5.13.0-16" . . . ???? I guess the question
> is, if Sid is running 5.10 why would kinetic be running 5.19???
>
> And, then, other interesting question, why did apt show something
> like 5.15 the last time I was in Lu . . . but then "hang" and lose
> track of it???
>
> These are somewhat "moot" . . . in that Lu boots and runs OK . . .
> but, something "happened" last week . . .????
>
> F
>
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2022 at 12:51 PM Fritz Hudnut <este.el.paz at gmail.com
> <mailto:este.el.paz at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Nio:
>
> I guess there was a post on the list that I didn't get, as I'm
> on digest . . . . But, thanks guys for checking on the "5.19" .
> . . I'm doing "weekly" apt update/upgrade and pretty sure I saw
> it was attempting to install 5.15??? (something less than 5.19)
> and then now seems to have selected 5.13 . . . ???
>
> I ran the master grub bootloader this morning, which should
> select the newest kernel in Lu . . . next time I boot into it .
> . . . And I did run "apt -f install" and that brought back
> "nothing to do" . . . it didn't show anything "broken" and so forth.
>
> I will also check synaptic to see if it shows anything broken .
> . . sometimes it can actually "fix broken" and sometimes it
> "blinks its eyes" and nothing happens . . . . I was looking
> through my cheat sheet notes for how to fix problems, but I
> didn't see anything on "dpkg" and/or how to use it to find and
> fix any issues . . . ???
>
> Anyway . . . I'll get back to it in a bit and see if grub found
> the 5.19 kernel option to boot up . . . .
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2022 at 12:05 PM Nio Wiklund
> <nio.wiklund at gmail.com <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Den 2022-09-06 kl. 20:57, skrev Israel Dahl:
> > On 9/6/22 09:31, Fritz Hudnut wrote:
> >> > . . . . On cold boot FF came back.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > But, the question of what happened with apt was
> the more important
> >> > question . . . was it trying to install a too new
> kernel and then
> >> > tried to back out of it? It was an odd episode .
> . . .
> >> >
> >> > F
> >> >
> >> Hey Fritz,
> >>
> >> You could search for the available kernels to see
> which ones are
> >> available, and which ones are installed.
> >>
> >> You can also look in the /var/log/dpkg.log something
> like:
> >>
> >> grep "upgrade " /var/log/dpkg.log
> >>
> >> That might give you a starting point.
> >>
> >> As for the disappearance of firefox, I think
> snap/flatpak packages
> >> don't
> >> always show up after install, there may be a way to
> force it to
> >> update
> >> the menus but I don't really like to use either of
> those unless I
> >> *really* have to, so I don't know off the top of my
> head/
> >>
> >> --
> >> 😷
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Israel:
> >>
> >> Thanks for the suggestions . . . I'll check into them
> when I get back
> >> to Lu in a few days. One of my problems is that since
> I'm rotating
> >> OSs each day, I don't know where each system is vis the
> kernel.
> >> Possibly kinetic is a "5.13" base system, but I did see
> "5.15" in the
> >> upgrade list. Yesterday I was in Tumbleweed, which is
> 5.19 . . . and
> >> then today I'm in Deb Sid, which I thought would be like
> 5.20??? but,
> >> nope, uname -r shows "5.10" . . . .
> >>
> >> The good news is that whatever blew up in the middle or
> end of the
> >> apt, the kinetic system rebooted into the GUI . . . .
> It was just a
> >> rare instance of a "hang" in the apt dist-upgrade.
> >>
> >> F
> >>
> > It looks like Kinetic has a 5.19 now, so you should try
> to update again.
> >
> > You should check to see that everything was unpacked in
> that last
> > upgrade as well. You might need to use dpkg to fix
> things if not.
> >
> > --
> > 😷
>
> Hi Fritz and Israel,
>
> I can confirm that Kinetic is a 5.19 now. Today I installed
> Lubuntu via
>
> kinetic-preinstalled-server-amd64.img.xz
>
> and lubuntu-desktop, installed into it when running in an
> external SSD
> according to
>
> "Ubuntu Server amd64 compressed image (when extracted) boots
> in UEFI and
> BIOS mode",
>
> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2474692
> <https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2474692>
>
> Best regards
> Nio
>
>
>
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