[lubuntu-users] Error: "system program problem" . . . the new mouse sweeps clean?

Fritz Hudnut este.el.paz at gmail.com
Mon Jul 1 14:48:39 UTC 2019


"Then don't be too surprised. When you're working on the development
version, it's expected there will be some amount of breakage, no matter
how much folks try to avoid it."

I have experienced a certain amount of "breakage" over the years,
particularly when there was a "PPC" distro; this last bit of "breakage,"
which now seems to be taking a break . . . appeared to be "systemic" across
the machine, and not just in one distro . . . and hard to know which distro
might have been "involved" as a few of them are "rolling" and each of them
seems to have a different kernel.  The Lubuntu 19.04 was the last actual
install, then upgraded to 19.10, but I have upgraded via Terminal, most of
them . . . and there was a week or so back the problem with a Leap 15.1
kernel, that did "do some breakage" . . . a few days later a new kernel was
released . . . a little hard to be "scientific" with so many players
playing through the same machine . . . it might be akin to a "multiple
personality disorder."

On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 8:17 PM Walter Lapchynski <wxl at ubuntu.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 07:35:43PM -0700, Fritz Hudnut wrote:
> > but, if I just reboot the
> > computer w/o alt/option key, then an OSX command line looking "dmesg" of
> a
> > few lines of "bash" script shows up mentioning "APFS" several times
> This is the part that worries me. It sounds like you're not sure how it
> got that way. As this is not necessarily a simple thing to do (Ralf did
> a good job of demonstraing that), I'm concerned about how easy it will
> be to troubleshoot this when it doesn't work. I urge you to see if you
> can't figure out the details as that will certainly help people help
> you.

Well, indeed, when running so many distros and installs it is hard to "know
everything/all of the time" . . . this machine is an "experiment" . . . as
far as running a number of installs in the machine, not via virtual . . .
but from what of the Siduction guys posted, I'm not really pushing the
envelope too much . . . compared to some multi-booters.  I did this OSX and
linux thing on all of my computers over the last 12 years or so, in the
same way of using Yaboot or Grub . . . but the APFS format is a new one,
this appears to be similar to if I booted into single user with one install
of OSX 10.14, they run some bash script at the beginning that mentions "UC
Berkeley" or something like that . . . .  I don't know if that is put on
the "mobo" when the install is run, or into its own EFI partition, but, it
shows up for a few seconds and then Grub appears . . . now once again
functioning, seeming to be OK.

In the interest of "science" . . . today I couldn't make my "which distro
is this morning's distro" decision fast enough, and the top listing is
U-MATE 18.04 . . . today, the "system program problem" error window that
doesn't show any "details" did not open after logging in to GUI . . . ????
We've all perhaps moved on to the next point of breakage?  I wanted to see
if this issue was still happening in "ubuntu" or if it has now been
upgraded/fixed . . . .  Since this thread wasn't exactly about all of the
problems I was having, but trying to figure out if the "unidentified system
problem" was indicating something "serious" or something temporary . . . at
least in MATE it appears to have been "temporary."  If it continues to open
when I get back to Lu 19.10 . . . I'll mention it.

Thanks for the conversation on it.


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