[lubuntu-users] installing lubuntu starting with a mini install
Nio Wiklund
nio.wiklund at gmail.com
Mon Mar 20 05:45:44 UTC 2017
Hi Spike,
Sorry, but I do not understand the differences in the internal structure
of the Lubuntu desktop iso file and the Lubuntu alternate iso file, and
how that will affect how to select language.
Best regards
Nio
Den 2017-03-20 kl. 00:12, skrev Spike:
> Hi,
>
> I just finished testing with the alternative iso, which hasn't made any
> difference and looking into it that's not surprising, it basically seems
> a server iso with the preseed/lubuntu.seed doing a tasksel of
> lubutu-desktop, ie the same thing I was doing manually by installing
> mini and then apt-get install lubuntu-desktop.
>
> This means that somehow the lubuntu iso and the alternative/mini +
> lubuntu-desktop are different, just can't figure out why/how (for sure
> I've noticed the presence of ibus, which is not in a lubuntu official
> iso install, but gets installed both from mini and alternative CD). So
> clearly there's more than a base install + lubuntu-desktop. Do you know
> what other steps may go into it?
>
> That said I tried to add simple pinyin and it worked so fcitx isn't
> completely broken. Nonetheless there is a problem with sogou input which
> works fine if installed on a lubuntu iso and not if installed on
> alternative/mini.
>
> would love to figure out what's up with the differences that break
> sogou, probably related to something with language prefs and the fact
> that ibus is installed, but maybe that's a red-herring.
>
> thanks again for your help,
>
> Spike
>
> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 8:49 PM Spike <spike at drba.org
> <mailto:spike at drba.org>> wrote:
>
> ah, I hadn't realized there was an alternative iso for lubuntu too.
> I will test with that, thank you, if it uses the same d-i setup and
> not ubiquity that may be just what I need.
>
> thank you again for your help,
>
> Spike
>
> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 8:37 PM Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund at gmail.com
> <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi again Spike,
>
> Did you try the Lubuntu alternate iso file? It uses the debian
> installer
> (the same text mode installer as is used in the mini.iso). Maybe
> that
> will work better.
>
> Best regards
> Nio
>
> Den 2017-03-19 kl. 04:28, skrev Spike:
> > I'm actually helping out with a largish amount of desktops and
> we need
> > netinstall so I pxe boot and mount whatever iso etc. This
> works and
> > right now I'm using the Lubuntu cd mounted remotely, however the
> > Ubiquity installer (the gui installer for ubuntu) has some
> bugs that are
> > really annoying (like problems with dmraid misreading windows
> disks or
> > not picking up the dhcp hostname). Also the mini iso combined
> with the
> > local deb mirror makes installs a lot faster.
> >
> > I tried with the server and it's the same problem.
> >
> > That said this may be more of a problem with sogou than
> anything else,
> > after removing ibus, deleting all settings I could actually enable
> > pinyin. However sogou is the most popular input method for
> chinese and
> > I'm asked to support that.
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > Spike
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 8:22 PM Nio Wiklund
> <nio.wiklund at gmail.com <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com>
> > <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com>>>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Spike,
> >
> > Well, I use a European language, and I have not had any
> problems setting
> > the language. But now I know, that there can be problems.
> >
> > Is there a reason, why you start from the mini.iso instead
> of from a
> > Lubuntu iso file (for example that you must install from a
> CD disk)?
> >
> > You could also try starting from the Ubuntu Server iso
> file (which is
> > also small enough to boot from a CD disk).
> >
> > Best regards
> > Nio
> >
> > Den 2017-03-19 kl. 04:11, skrev Spike:
> > > Hello Nio, thanks for getting back to me.
> > >
> > > ok, I just tried on a VM and one of the differences I
> noticed is that
> > > language input is broken. Upon inspection I found ibus was
> > installed and
> > > possibly causing issues/conflicts with fcitx, not sure.
> I removed
> > it but
> > > the situation hasn't changed, I cannot basically switch
> to any other
> > > input method (I have. Also I use sogou pinyin for
> chinese input
> > and that
> > > works just fine when adding it on a Lubuntu install, but
> it won't work
> > > for some reason when adding it on a lubuntu install that
> came from a
> > > mini + lubuntu-desktop. any thoughts on that? there may
> be more
> > > differences/problems that I've yet to find.
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > >
> > > Spike
> > >
> > > On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 7:57 PM Nio Wiklund
> <nio.wiklund at gmail.com <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com>
> > <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com>>
> > > <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com
> <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com> <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com
> <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com>>>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Den 2017-03-19 kl. 03:43, skrev Spike:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I'm trying to set up a Lubuntu Xenial desktop
> starting from
> > a mini.iso
> > > > xenial installation. Should that be possible? is it
> > sufficient to just
> > > > apt-get install lubuntu-desktop or are there extra
> steps in
> > the making
> > > > of the lubuntu iso, and things you get installing
> from it, that
> > > are not
> > > > available by simply installing the pkg?
> > > >
> > > > thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Spike
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Yes it is possible to do it as you describe in BIOS
> mode :-)
> > >
> > > sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
> > >
> > > In UEFI mode (as well as in BIOS mode) you can do the
> > corresponding
> > > thing starting from the Ubuntu Server iso file.
> > >
> > > Best regards
> > > Nio
> > >
> >
>
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