[lubuntu-users] Lubuntu-users Digest, Vol 56, Issue 11
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Asunto: Lubuntu-users Digest, Vol 56, Issue 11
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Today's Topics:
1. [Bug 1608306] Re: Confusing for users with many websites
(Walter Lapchynski)
2. Re: [Bug 1608306] Re: Confusing for users with many websites
(Narcis Garcia)
3. iso weirdness Diskutil, gparted, MKUSB (scrooyahoo at riseup.net)
4. Re: iso weirdness Diskutil, gparted, MKUSB (Nio Wiklund)
5. Re: iso weirdness Diskutil, gparted, MKUSB (Liam Proven)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2016 15:27:01 -0000
From: Walter Lapchynski <wxl at ubuntu.com>
To: lubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: [lubuntu-users] [Bug 1608306] Re: Confusing for users with
many websites
Message-ID: <20160805152702.29480.79164.malone at gac.canonical.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
@Mario, as Michael Hall, a member of the Ubuntu Community Council said,
bug comments are not the place for arguments. Let's keep the discussion
on topic.
The problem is that users are confused about the two websites.
lubuntu.me came into existence due to a lack of control at lubuntu.net,
which was constantly out of date. Even though it links to many resources
on the wiki, it provides download links separate from that. Without
being able to keep those up to date, that is, among other things,
problematic. Though lubuntu.me solves this problem, the existence of
both websites creates a new one: a clash of information and a confusion
for users.
The solution is very simple. What we need is one website, and one which
is ultimately decentralized. With lubuntu.me being hosted by Canonical
(in process) and being registered by Canonical (also coming soon), it
not only appears official, but then it is within the control of the
Ubuntu Community since the resources Canonical provides (IS Team,
Community Council) serve that community.
Right now, lubuntu.net is neither official nor within community control.
However, Lubuntu is certainly an official flavor of Ubuntu[1][2][3][4]
and subsequently "owned" by the Ubuntu Community, rather than being the
project of any one particular person. This is why the IS Team and the
Community Council were contacted and provided the change to the
ownership of the Lubuntu Team. After all, this is more decentralized.
[1]: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours
[2]: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFlavors
[3]: http://blog.lxde.org/?p=208
[4]: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2011-April/000835.html (read the whole thread)
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1608306
Title:
Confusing for users with many websites
Status in Lubuntu Artwork:
In Progress
Bug description:
Hi! I have used Lubuntu for many years and thought the lubuntu.net
webstte was the official site for lubuntu. I have subscribed to the
RSS feed to get news, but lately, there have been very few. Recently,
I discovered the lubuntu.me website. It seems more active and the blog
is up to date on news. There is no indication on either that they are
not official, but on the bottom of both, there seems to be information
pointing towards both being owned by individuals, not by the Lubuntu
project. This makes it hard to know which is the official site, if
any. Would it not be less confusing for users to have one website and
make the other address redirect to it?
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 18:17:39 +0200
From: Narcis Garcia <informatica at actiu.net>
To: lubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: [lubuntu-users] [Bug 1608306] Re: Confusing for users
with many websites
Message-ID: <57A4BC23.5040707 at actiu.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
I think lubuntu.org is the best domain name+extension to set as official
web home. I see nonsense to create others as .me
If the problem is the content maintainment, the solution is to fix the
content maintainment and/or content manager team.
lubuntu.me only has a future if .prg and .net are both closed.
El 05/08/16 a les 17:27, Walter Lapchynski ha escrit:
> @Mario, as Michael Hall, a member of the Ubuntu Community Council said,
> bug comments are not the place for arguments. Let's keep the discussion
> on topic.
>
> The problem is that users are confused about the two websites.
>
> lubuntu.me came into existence due to a lack of control at lubuntu.net,
> which was constantly out of date. Even though it links to many resources
> on the wiki, it provides download links separate from that. Without
> being able to keep those up to date, that is, among other things,
> problematic. Though lubuntu.me solves this problem, the existence of
> both websites creates a new one: a clash of information and a confusion
> for users.
>
> The solution is very simple. What we need is one website, and one which
> is ultimately decentralized. With lubuntu.me being hosted by Canonical
> (in process) and being registered by Canonical (also coming soon), it
> not only appears official, but then it is within the control of the
> Ubuntu Community since the resources Canonical provides (IS Team,
> Community Council) serve that community.
>
> Right now, lubuntu.net is neither official nor within community control.
> However, Lubuntu is certainly an official flavor of Ubuntu[1][2][3][4]
> and subsequently "owned" by the Ubuntu Community, rather than being the
> project of any one particular person. This is why the IS Team and the
> Community Council were contacted and provided the change to the
> ownership of the Lubuntu Team. After all, this is more decentralized.
>
> [1]: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours
> [2]: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFlavors
> [3]: http://blog.lxde.org/?p=208
> [4]: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2011-April/000835.html (read the whole thread)
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2016 03:52:59 +0200
From: scrooyahoo at riseup.net
To: Lubuntu Users <lubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
Subject: [lubuntu-users] iso weirdness Diskutil, gparted, MKUSB
Message-ID: <2ec9fff12656ff5ecf623d995e29263e at riseup.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
Hi everyone,
I experience some weird behaviour with the FreeDOS ISO
I flashed FreeDOS to an USB.
when i plug the USB in i can open the partition and browse the FreeDOS
directories
However, when i tru to boot the drive the Acer does not detect it.
Then i tought, to flash it againg but then by usin Unetbootin.
BUT Unetbooting does not detect the USB either
So i look with Gparted. and when i select the drive this-one says
UNALLOCATED SPACE
Then back to MKUSB.. BUT MKUSB no longer sees the USB
But in PCman i can just browse the drive withouth issues..
Then i installed the Diskutillity from gnome
And thisone sees the USB but it can't remove or edit the partition.
So back to Gparted, this time Gparted does NOTsee the USB.
back again to diskutil
unmounted and remounted the partition
back to gparted and now it again sees /dev/sdb as unallocated diskspace.
Warning: /dev/sdb: unrecognised disk label
Is there something that i'm missing? Something that diskutil can do that
gparted can not? And MKUSB why does that no-longer see the USB stick?
Is there anotherapplication then Diskutilliy or Gparted that is able to
at least let me remove the partition and format the stick?
I'm sure i'm overlooking something.
The unrecognised disklabel is that caused by the FreeDOS iso or could it
be a bug in MKUSB?
I'd like to try to flash FreeDOS with Unetbootin but cant figure out why
Unetbootin does not see the USB at all.
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 11:39:58 +0200
From: Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund at gmail.com>
To: scrooyahoo at riseup.net, Lubuntu Users
<lubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
Subject: Re: [lubuntu-users] iso weirdness Diskutil, gparted, MKUSB
Message-ID: <a9720d74-eedf-31e4-7e06-508042443307 at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Hi scrooyahoo,
[replying inline]
Best regards
Nio
Den 2016-08-06 kl. 03:52, skrev scrooyahoo at riseup.net:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I experience some weird behaviour with the FreeDOS ISO
>
> I flashed FreeDOS to an USB.
> when i plug the USB in i can open the partition and browse the FreeDOS
> directories
>
> However, when i tru to boot the drive the Acer does not detect it.
>
> Then i tought, to flash it againg but then by usin Unetbootin.
>
> BUT Unetbooting does not detect the USB either
> So i look with Gparted. and when i select the drive this-one says
> UNALLOCATED SPACE
> Then back to MKUSB.. BUT MKUSB no longer sees the USB
> But in PCman i can just browse the drive withouth issues..
I don't understand what happens. Maybe you can run some commands and
post the output in a reply.
- Run the system, where pcmanfm can see the drive with FreeDOS
- Open a terminal window
- Run the following commands and post the output (copy and paste to an
email window),
df -h
sudo parted -ls
sudo lsblk -f
sudo lsblk -m
> Then i installed the Diskutillity from gnome
>
> And thisone sees the USB but it can't remove or edit the partition.
>
> So back to Gparted, this time Gparted does NOTsee the USB.
>
> back again to diskutil
> unmounted and remounted the partition
> back to gparted and now it again sees /dev/sdb as unallocated diskspace.
> Warning: /dev/sdb: unrecognised disk label
>
> Is there something that i'm missing? Something that diskutil can do that
> gparted can not? And MKUSB why does that no-longer see the USB stick?
Try to remember what you have changed in the computer, for example some
setting in a BIOS menu.
Can you see make the system see another pendrive (with some other content)?
> Is there anotherapplication then Diskutilliy or Gparted that is able to
> at least let me remove the partition and format the stick?
What happens in another computer?
> I'm sure i'm overlooking something.
What happens after shutting down, waiting for 5 minutes and cold booting?
> The unrecognised disklabel is that caused by the FreeDOS iso or could it
> be a bug in MKUSB?
> I'd like to try to flash FreeDOS with Unetbootin but cant figure out why
> Unetbootin does not see the USB at all.
Read about FreeDOS at its web page, and use a method and tool that is
recommended to install it into a USB pendrive.
For example this page
https://www.chtaube.eu/computers/freedos/bootable-usb/
suggests to first expand with bzip2 before flashing. mkusb is made to
expand files compressed with gzip and xz (but not bzip2), so you must
use it in a two-step procedure, first expand, then flash alias install
into a USB drive.
So check with sha1sum, that the download was good,
sha1sum FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img.bz2
187ce046066b7a70039a46d7c3a24dd52a8dc049
and create 'FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img' with the following command
bzcat FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img.bz2 >
FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img
and use it with the following command
sudo -H mkusb FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img
in a computer, where the target pendrive is recognized.
You can also use dd or some other tool to get it into a pendrive by the
*cloning* method. Do not use Unetbootin.
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 13:34:05 +0200
From: Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com>
To: lubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: [lubuntu-users] iso weirdness Diskutil, gparted, MKUSB
Message-ID:
<CAMTenCFjpm-pG3gcCqCSgF92qrAOY+9OhXe-zfF24_wEjBY3fQ at mail.gmail.com>
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On 6 August 2016 at 03:52, <scrooyahoo at riseup.net> wrote:
> I flashed FreeDOS to an USB.
How?
And how was the drive partitioned?
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