Lubuntu 14 && U-MATE 15 installer issues [PPC]

Mon May 18 15:27:56 UTC 2015

Taking a break for a week or more on this problem . . . it's Groundhog Day
all over again . . . .

On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 3:49 AM, Peter Golis <golisp at centrum.sk> wrote:

> Hello Fritz,
>
> If I can remember your situation correctly, then you had chabged something
> and system got into troubless.
>
>
>
> First issue was your change of bootstrap to unsupported size, may be you
> had not followed bootstrap but normal disk partition for data. You had
> confirmed it with picture of standard disk layout with correct bootstrap.
>
>
>
> Next issue was related to sound card, you got confirmation how to proceed
> with loading of snd-aoa-i2sbus to confirm if that bug is only wrong i2s
> autodetecttion in upstream kernel which becomes from migration from driver
> snd-powermac to bunch of drivers snd-aoa-*. No feedback was received. That
> is allready confirmed in HOWTO.
>
>
>
> Another issue was regarding no network. On your notebook are two network
> cards. Metalic sungem does not have issues on most kernels which I had
> tested, but wireless b43 need to have active old fassioned driver. Again
> you got information how to proceed, but no feedback was received.
>
>
>
> But you had provided log from xwindow system with kernel argument to use
> open firmware frame buffer.
>
>
>
> Now you are informing about issues in kernel for Ubuntu Mate which
> difefrent Ubuntu derivate than Lubuntu. I'm nor sure what you mean with
> that all information.
>
>
>
> P.
>
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________
> > Od: Fritz Hudnut <este.el.paz at gmail.com>
> > Komu: Peter Golis <golisp at centrum.sk>
> > Dátum: 17.05.2015 23:56
> > Predmet: Re: Lubuntu 14 && U-MATE 15 installer issues [PPC]
> >
>
> > CC: "lubuntu user list"
>    @Peter:
>
>  Yes, my sense of humor is very sophisticated . . . very dry . . . .  But,
> in this case I'm not using it very well . . . or the joke is on me . . . .
> However, I'm not sure that you understand how broken this system is . . .
> sometimes I can boot the system and get to a TTY and others times not--due
> to kernel dump/freezes.  So, it's not like I have time to mess with you,
> the system is messing with me, and, then I'm using what is very limited CLI
> knowledge to try to do commands that will either fix the problems or
> provide data that might be helpful to others . . . such as yourself.  My
> time is very valuable to me and this isn't really funny to me . . . it
> should be that since PPC machines have stood still technologically for the
> last ten years that the knowledge of what is needed to run them should be
> very clear--but nothing seems to be further from what is happening with
> powerpc development, given the evidence presented with this install of
> 15.04 PPC.
>
>  Yesterday I posted my situation on the Ubuntu-MATE forum and a few hours
> later I got a reply from Martin Winpress, who seems to be the lead on the
> ubuntu + MATE team . . . and he said, "There are serious big endian
> problems with Xorg 1.7, check with G+ to see how other PPC users are using
> Xorg 1.6 . . . . "
>
>
>  So, that tells me that there are "big endian" problems with the system .
> . . and, that seems to be including some issues with the installer, as well
> as the installed system--whereas the live DVD appeared to be "OK."
>
>  Back to our conversation, first thing, "apport" was **not** installed
> with the system, and I spent some hours trying to find a similar bug or
> figure out exactly what is happening so that I could "file" about it . . .
> .  Is this a "syslinux" problem?  Crash?  Or, problem with a "package"??
> Actually all of the above.  So, taking time to again figure out that each
> time the system is booted the ethernet connection is again "broken" and has
> to be "restarted" and then messing around trying to get a TTY to show up I
> installed "python-apport" and "pastebinit" while I was at it.  Then I tried
> to "apport-collect" to a bug number . . . .that attempt failed because
> there is no GUI to open Firefox.  It is a "known issue" that wifi is not
> included, and also, no sound.  A new "error" listed pre-splash was
> "build/buildd/linux-3.19.0/drivers/rtc/hctosys.c: unable to open rtc device
> (rtc0) ????  Along with the "i2c" error that showed up in 14.04, b ut which
> didn't seem to interfere with running the system, perhaps relating to no
> sound?
>
>  Then I spent further time trying to find data on which "logs" would be
> helpful, because actually you didn't name any, you just requested
> "evidence" . . . .  And, then I tried a test run of pastebinit to upload
> what looked like the smallest log, but one which multiple forum sites were
> requesting from people, the Xorg.0.log . . . .  Which unfortunately didn't
> seem to show much, but I chose it rather than looking through 8000 lines of
> the other log, the kern.log . . . didn't seem to be any obvious errors
> there either, but is huge.  Again, I asked you what files/logs you would
> want to see, but you instead have chosen to comment about my "sense of
> humor."
>
> Much of this stuff I have also repeated, but I'm stating it again.  1.
> Problems with manual installer  2. GUI gets to splash, then "freezes"  3.
> Once the GUI freezes TTY will not open  4.  Booting into Single user will
> also crash or screen goes black  5.  If TTY can be opened from single user
> then "dependency" problems are breaking the ethernet connection  6.
> Upgrading to new kernel (post 5/8/15 download) . . . did **not** fix any of
> the fore-going problems . . . .  7.  It now appears to be known that there
> are "big endian problems with Xorg 1.7"  8.  Xorg.0.log  did not provide
> any evidence to any of these Big endian problems with Xorg 1.7.
>
>  F
>
> On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Peter Golis <golisp at centrum.sk> wrote:
>
>> Hello Fritz,
>>
>> You had talked about issue with network, and you know how to activate
>> b43legacy driver. To confirm it you had provided random log, from X Window
>> System (graphics) where is no error reported.
>>
>>
>>
>> I cannot understood your sense of humor.
>>
>>
>>
>> P.
>>
>>
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________
>> > Od: Fritz Hudnut <este.el.paz at gmail.com>
>> > Komu: Peter Golis <golisp at centrum.sk>
>> > Dátum: 17.05.2015 03:33
>> > Predmet: Re: Lubuntu 14 && U-MATE 15 installer issues [PPC]
>> >
>>
>> > CC: "lubuntu user list"
>>    @Peter, etal:
>>
>>  Got the /var/log/Xorg.0.log   uploaded to paste.ubuntu . . . doesn't
>> seem to be showing anything too obvious to me that would explain why X is
>> not loading . . . .    I looked through 8000 lines of /var/log/kern.log . .
>> . nothing seemed to be worth looking through there, plus it's 8000 lines
>> long.
>>
>> Any other logs you would want to see?
>>
>>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/11176522
>>
>>  F
>>
>> On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 7:37 AM, Fritz Hudnut <este.el.paz at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  @Peter:
>>>
>>>  Thanks, I'll be back shortly . . . whenever I can get a TTY to open . .
>>> . .
>>>
>>>  F
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Peter Golis <golisp at centrum.sk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Fritz,
>>>> If you get that errors 20 times in a row, then you have clear way how
>>>> to reproduce it and also information about evidence (logs). That was what I
>>>> had asked several times, but nothing was provided.
>>>>
>>>> If you will have it, then come back please.
>>>>
>>>> P.
>>>>
>>>>
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