Fwd: Keyboard shortcuts (CTRL+C CTRL+V) don't work when keyboard is set to Hebrew

אלעד הן eladhen2 at gmail.com
Sun Mar 1 21:08:09 UTC 2015


Of course, you should uninstall the Hebrew input method before doing this.




אלעד הן
נייד: 052-5348554

On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 11:02 PM, אלעד הן <eladhen2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ok, a good friend, and far more knowledgeable than myself in the world of
> linux, gave me the solution.
>
> He says he thinks the way Lubuntu switches between languages is the source
> of the problem.
>
> He told me to run this command:
>
> *setxkbmap -option grp:alt_shift_toggle "us,il"*
>
> Now everything works wonderfully.
>
> How can I help lubuntu fix this problem?
>
> Thank all of you for your patience and your help. It makes even solving
> problems a nice experience.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> אלעד הן
> נייד: 052-5348554
>
> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 10:33 PM, אלעד הן <eladhen2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I tried it out in Gedit. LibreOffice still has the spellchecker.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> אלעד הן
>> נייד: 052-5348554
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 10:30 PM, Walter Lapchynski <wxl at ubuntu.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> מזל טוב ☺
>>>
>>> What word processor?
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 12:28 PM, אלעד הן <eladhen2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > It worked! Thank you so much!
>>> >
>>> > The only problem is now I seem to have lost the Hebrew spell checker,
>>> which
>>> > I guess is part of the other Hebrew input method. Is there a way to
>>> get only
>>> > the spell checker?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > אלעד הן
>>> > נייד: 052-5348554
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Walter Lapchynski <wxl at ubuntu.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Keyboard Input Methods in the Preferences menu. Or just run
>>> >> `ibus-setup` from the command line. Or you can use the "Run" option in
>>> >> the menu. Or you can use the Alt-F2 shortcut for that Run option.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 12:09 PM, אלעד הן <eladhen2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> > Well, I installed it but now embarrassingly I have no Idea where
>>> >> > ibus-setup
>>> >> > is...
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Anyway, as far as I know there are no physical differences between
>>> US
>>> >> > and
>>> >> > Hebrew keyboards.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > אלעד הן
>>> >> > נייד: 052-5348554
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Walter Lapchynski <wxl at ubuntu.com>
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Well, it might work with the Hebrew keyboard, too. It's worth
>>> trying
>>> >> >> with
>>> >> >> both.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On 3/1/15, אלעד הן <eladhen2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >> > Thanks! Well, I have a US keyboard too (I have little stickers
>>> for
>>> >> >> > the
>>> >> >> > Hebrew letters) so this definitely seems worth a try.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > אלעד הן
>>> >> >> > נייד: 052-5348554
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Walter Lapchynski <
>>> wxl at ubuntu.com>
>>> >> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> One thing I read from there is potentially installing the
>>> >> >> >> `ibus-m17n`
>>> >> >> >> package and then choosing the Hebrew input method in
>>> `ibus-setup`. I
>>> >> >> >> actually just did this, switched to the Hebrew input method and
>>> was
>>> >> >> >> able to copy and paste no problem. Of course, I do have a US
>>> >> >> >> keyboard,
>>> >> >> >> so that might not be a good test ☺
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 11:25 AM, אלעד הן <eladhen2 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> >> >> > Thank you very much.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > The problem is global as far as I can tell (in every program
>>> and
>>> >> >> >> > even
>>> >> >> >> > in
>>> >> >> >> the
>>> >> >> >> > file manager).
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > I will try changing the layout and see if it helps.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > I came across this bit of information:
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > http://en.libreofficeforum.org/node/1586
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > But I'm too ill-informed to understand if what they describe
>>> is
>>> >> >> >> > the
>>> >> >> >> > same
>>> >> >> >> > problem and what exactly they're suggesting as a solution...
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > אלעד הן
>>> >> >> >> > נייד: 052-5348554
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 8:58 PM, Walter Lapchynski <
>>> wxl at ubuntu.com>
>>> >> >> >> wrote:
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> First off, there is an [Ubuntu Local Community in Israel][1]
>>> that
>>> >> >> >> >> you
>>> >> >> >> >> may want to connect with, especially considering they have
>>> >> >> >> >> probably
>>> >> >> >> >> faced the same issue.
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> Secondly, this is not solely a Lubuntu issue. Sure, we have
>>> >> >> >> >> different
>>> >> >> >> >> GUI tools to do this and that but ultimately "under the hood"
>>> >> >> >> >> Ubuntu
>>> >> >> >> >> and Lubuntu is the same. That being said, it may be useful
>>> to ask
>>> >> >> >> >> in
>>> >> >> >> >> Ubuntu circles what the appropriate command line solution
>>> is. If
>>> >> >> >> >> you
>>> >> >> >> >> can figure that out, I'm sure we can translate that into an
>>> >> >> >> >> appropriate Lubuntu GUI solution.
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> Now, is this only in the word processor or is this global? If
>>> >> >> >> >> it's
>>> >> >> >> >> only the word processor, you might want to see if it has
>>> better
>>> >> >> >> >> support for Hebrew. For example, I know of the package
>>> >> >> >> >> `libreoffice-l10n-he` which adds some additional support for
>>> >> >> >> >> Hebrew.
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> If it is global, then you may want to try the alternative
>>> >> >> >> >> keyboard
>>> >> >> >> >> layouts (lyx, phonetic, biblical). I have searched through
>>> the
>>> >> >> >> >> plethora of options that `setxkbmap` offers (see `man
>>> >> >> >> >> xkeyboard-config`) and I don't find anything particularly
>>> >> >> >> >> obvious,
>>> >> >> >> >> so
>>> >> >> >> >> I would imagine that one of these three layouts probably has
>>> your
>>> >> >> >> >> solution.
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> My guess is either that this is specific to a particular
>>> >> >> >> >> application
>>> >> >> >> >> (in which case the answer may involve digging through its
>>> >> >> >> >> configuration and/or complaining to the folks that make that
>>> >> >> >> >> application) or that some existing keyboard layout or option
>>> >> >> >> >> provides
>>> >> >> >> >> the answer.
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> It is possible that people just switch keyboard layouts. Sure
>>> >> >> >> >> seems
>>> >> >> >> >> strange, but it's possible. If you look at the "Switching to
>>> >> >> >> >> another
>>> >> >> >> >> layout" section in the aforementioned man page, you'll see
>>> you
>>> >> >> >> >> can
>>> >> >> >> >> define hotkeys to quickly make this change.
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> I will note that /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/il seems to be
>>> >> >> >> >> written
>>> >> >> >> >> by
>>> >> >> >> >> someone who has a better sense of Hebrew than I do,
>>> referencing
>>> >> >> >> >> the
>>> >> >> >> >> "standard SI-1452." That being said, I my gut tells me they
>>> >> >> >> >> probably
>>> >> >> >> >> didn't miss this crucial set of hotkeys.
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> If you discover the answer, please share with us! Perhaps
>>> even
>>> >> >> >> >> better,
>>> >> >> >> >> add what you find to the [Hebrew Localization Ubuntu wiki
>>> >> >> >> >> page][2].
>>> >> >> >> >> Good luck!
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> [1]: http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-il/
>>> >> >> >> >> [2]:
>>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HebrewLocalizationHowto
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 8:26 AM, אלעד הן <elad2040 at gmail.com>
>>> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>>> >> >> >> >> > Thanks for responding. I'm to much of a newbie to
>>> understand
>>> >> >> >> >> > most
>>> >> >> >> >> > of
>>> >> >> >> >> > what
>>> >> >> >> >> > you said though :(
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> > The site doesn't seem to be related to linux...
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> > I looked through the different keyboard options in
>>> >> >> >> >> > "preferences"
>>> >> >> >> >> > and
>>> >> >> >> >> > there
>>> >> >> >> >> > aren't many of them, and nothing looks relevant...
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> > אלעד הן
>>> >> >> >> >> > נייד: 052-5348554
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Israel <
>>> israeldahl at gmail.com>
>>> >> >> >> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> On 03/01/2015 04:55 AM, אלעד הן wrote:
>>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> Hi everyone. I'm a total newbie and probably doing this
>>> wrong
>>> >> >> >> >> >> but
>>> >> >> >> bare
>>> >> >> >> >> >> with me... I tried searching for answers to this problem,
>>> but
>>> >> >> >> although
>>> >> >> >> >> >> I've
>>> >> >> >> >> >> found several references to it, I couldn't find a
>>> solution.
>>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> Anyway, I installed lubuntu 14.04 (not the 64 bit
>>> version) on
>>> >> >> >> >> >> my
>>> >> >> >> >> >> old
>>> >> >> >> >> >> laptop and I'm very pleased with the performances.
>>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> When word-processing I mostly use Hebrew, and I've found
>>> the
>>> >> >> >> >> >> Keyboard
>>> >> >> >> >> >> shortcuts don't work when I'm the keyboard is switched to
>>> >> >> >> >> >> Hebrew.
>>> >> >> >> This
>>> >> >> >> >> >> means
>>> >> >> >> >> >> that every time I want to copy and paste in Hebrew I first
>>> >> >> >> >> >> have
>>> >> >> >> >> >> to
>>> >> >> >> >> >> switch
>>> >> >> >> >> >> back to English, use the shortcuts and switch back to
>>> Hebrew.
>>> >> >> >> >> >> This
>>> >> >> >> is a
>>> >> >> >> >> >> very
>>> >> >> >> >> >> big problem for the flow of work, and makes the shortcuts
>>> >> >> >> >> >> hardly
>>> >> >> >> short.
>>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> Does anyone have a solution for this?
>>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> Thank you.
>>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> אלעד הן
>>> >> >> >> >> >> נייד: 052-5348554
>>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> Hi Elad,
>>> >> >> >> >> >> It may be an issue with the way the Hebrew keyboard is
>>> mapped.
>>> >> >> >> >> >> The
>>> >> >> >> >> >> keyboard probably represents "V" and "C" incorrectly.
>>>  Which
>>> >> >> >> >> >> would
>>> >> >> >> >> >> make
>>> >> >> >> >> >> sense, which one becomes 'V' and which one becomes 'C'?
>>> There
>>> >> >> >> >> >> are
>>> >> >> >> >> >> at
>>> >> >> >> >> >> least
>>> >> >> >> >> >> 2 for each of those that I can think of, right?
>>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> You may find something here:
>>> >> >> >> >> >> http://penguin.org.il/
>>> >> >> >> >> >> Since it is an Israeli Linux site.
>>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> I think this may be related to X keyboard mapping, though
>>> that
>>> >> >> >> >> >> is
>>> >> >> >> >> >> a
>>> >> >> >> >> >> guess.
>>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> Sorry I do not know a specific solution, though.  You
>>> might
>>> >> >> >> >> >> try
>>> >> >> >> asking
>>> >> >> >> >> >> in
>>> >> >> >> >> >> Hebrew specific IRC channels, or asking someone at a local
>>> >> >> >> >> >> Linux
>>> >> >> >> >> >> User
>>> >> >> >> >> >> Group.
>>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> --
>>> >> >> >> >> >> Regards
>>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >>
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>>> >> >> >> Ubuntu PPC Point of Contact
>>> >> >> >> Ubuntu Oregon LoCo Team Leader
>>> >> >> >> Eugene Unix & GNU/Linux User Group Co-Organizer
>>> >> >> >>
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>>> >>
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>>> >> Lubuntu Release Manager, Head of QA
>>> >> Ubuntu PPC Point of Contact
>>> >> Ubuntu Oregon LoCo Team Leader
>>> >> Eugene Unix & GNU/Linux User Group Co-Organizer
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Ubuntu Oregon LoCo Team Leader
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