Fwd: Keyboard shortcuts (CTRL+C CTRL+V) don't work when keyboard is set to Hebrew

Sun Mar 1 20:33:42 UTC 2015

I tried it out in Gedit. LibreOffice still has the spellchecker.

אלעד הן
נייד: 052-5348554

On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 10:30 PM, Walter Lapchynski <wxl at ubuntu.com> wrote:

> מזל טוב ☺
>
> What word processor?
>
> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 12:28 PM, אלעד הן <eladhen2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > It worked! Thank you so much!
> >
> > The only problem is now I seem to have lost the Hebrew spell checker,
> which
> > I guess is part of the other Hebrew input method. Is there a way to get
> only
> > the spell checker?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > אלעד הן
> > נייד: 052-5348554
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Walter Lapchynski <wxl at ubuntu.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Keyboard Input Methods in the Preferences menu. Or just run
> >> `ibus-setup` from the command line. Or you can use the "Run" option in
> >> the menu. Or you can use the Alt-F2 shortcut for that Run option.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 12:09 PM, אלעד הן <eladhen2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Well, I installed it but now embarrassingly I have no Idea where
> >> > ibus-setup
> >> > is...
> >> >
> >> > Anyway, as far as I know there are no physical differences between US
> >> > and
> >> > Hebrew keyboards.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > אלעד הן
> >> > נייד: 052-5348554
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Walter Lapchynski <wxl at ubuntu.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Well, it might work with the Hebrew keyboard, too. It's worth trying
> >> >> with
> >> >> both.
> >> >>
> >> >> On 3/1/15, אלעד הן <eladhen2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > Thanks! Well, I have a US keyboard too (I have little stickers for
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > Hebrew letters) so this definitely seems worth a try.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > אלעד הן
> >> >> > נייד: 052-5348554
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Walter Lapchynski <wxl at ubuntu.com>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> One thing I read from there is potentially installing the
> >> >> >> `ibus-m17n`
> >> >> >> package and then choosing the Hebrew input method in
> `ibus-setup`. I
> >> >> >> actually just did this, switched to the Hebrew input method and
> was
> >> >> >> able to copy and paste no problem. Of course, I do have a US
> >> >> >> keyboard,
> >> >> >> so that might not be a good test ☺
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 11:25 AM, אלעד הן <eladhen2 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >> >> > Thank you very much.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > The problem is global as far as I can tell (in every program and
> >> >> >> > even
> >> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> > file manager).
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I will try changing the layout and see if it helps.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I came across this bit of information:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > http://en.libreofficeforum.org/node/1586
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > But I'm too ill-informed to understand if what they describe is
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > same
> >> >> >> > problem and what exactly they're suggesting as a solution...
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > אלעד הן
> >> >> >> > נייד: 052-5348554
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 8:58 PM, Walter Lapchynski <
> wxl at ubuntu.com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> First off, there is an [Ubuntu Local Community in Israel][1]
> that
> >> >> >> >> you
> >> >> >> >> may want to connect with, especially considering they have
> >> >> >> >> probably
> >> >> >> >> faced the same issue.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Secondly, this is not solely a Lubuntu issue. Sure, we have
> >> >> >> >> different
> >> >> >> >> GUI tools to do this and that but ultimately "under the hood"
> >> >> >> >> Ubuntu
> >> >> >> >> and Lubuntu is the same. That being said, it may be useful to
> ask
> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> Ubuntu circles what the appropriate command line solution is.
> If
> >> >> >> >> you
> >> >> >> >> can figure that out, I'm sure we can translate that into an
> >> >> >> >> appropriate Lubuntu GUI solution.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Now, is this only in the word processor or is this global? If
> >> >> >> >> it's
> >> >> >> >> only the word processor, you might want to see if it has better
> >> >> >> >> support for Hebrew. For example, I know of the package
> >> >> >> >> `libreoffice-l10n-he` which adds some additional support for
> >> >> >> >> Hebrew.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> If it is global, then you may want to try the alternative
> >> >> >> >> keyboard
> >> >> >> >> layouts (lyx, phonetic, biblical). I have searched through the
> >> >> >> >> plethora of options that `setxkbmap` offers (see `man
> >> >> >> >> xkeyboard-config`) and I don't find anything particularly
> >> >> >> >> obvious,
> >> >> >> >> so
> >> >> >> >> I would imagine that one of these three layouts probably has
> your
> >> >> >> >> solution.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> My guess is either that this is specific to a particular
> >> >> >> >> application
> >> >> >> >> (in which case the answer may involve digging through its
> >> >> >> >> configuration and/or complaining to the folks that make that
> >> >> >> >> application) or that some existing keyboard layout or option
> >> >> >> >> provides
> >> >> >> >> the answer.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> It is possible that people just switch keyboard layouts. Sure
> >> >> >> >> seems
> >> >> >> >> strange, but it's possible. If you look at the "Switching to
> >> >> >> >> another
> >> >> >> >> layout" section in the aforementioned man page, you'll see you
> >> >> >> >> can
> >> >> >> >> define hotkeys to quickly make this change.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I will note that /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/il seems to be
> >> >> >> >> written
> >> >> >> >> by
> >> >> >> >> someone who has a better sense of Hebrew than I do, referencing
> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> "standard SI-1452." That being said, I my gut tells me they
> >> >> >> >> probably
> >> >> >> >> didn't miss this crucial set of hotkeys.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> If you discover the answer, please share with us! Perhaps even
> >> >> >> >> better,
> >> >> >> >> add what you find to the [Hebrew Localization Ubuntu wiki
> >> >> >> >> page][2].
> >> >> >> >> Good luck!
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> [1]: http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-il/
> >> >> >> >> [2]: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HebrewLocalizationHowto
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 8:26 AM, אלעד הן <elad2040 at gmail.com>
> >> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > Thanks for responding. I'm to much of a newbie to understand
> >> >> >> >> > most
> >> >> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> >> > what
> >> >> >> >> > you said though :(
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > The site doesn't seem to be related to linux...
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > I looked through the different keyboard options in
> >> >> >> >> > "preferences"
> >> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> >> > there
> >> >> >> >> > aren't many of them, and nothing looks relevant...
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > אלעד הן
> >> >> >> >> > נייד: 052-5348554
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Israel <israeldahl at gmail.com
> >
> >> >> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> On 03/01/2015 04:55 AM, אלעד הן wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Hi everyone. I'm a total newbie and probably doing this
> wrong
> >> >> >> >> >> but
> >> >> >> bare
> >> >> >> >> >> with me... I tried searching for answers to this problem,
> but
> >> >> >> although
> >> >> >> >> >> I've
> >> >> >> >> >> found several references to it, I couldn't find a solution.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Anyway, I installed lubuntu 14.04 (not the 64 bit version)
> on
> >> >> >> >> >> my
> >> >> >> >> >> old
> >> >> >> >> >> laptop and I'm very pleased with the performances.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> When word-processing I mostly use Hebrew, and I've found the
> >> >> >> >> >> Keyboard
> >> >> >> >> >> shortcuts don't work when I'm the keyboard is switched to
> >> >> >> >> >> Hebrew.
> >> >> >> This
> >> >> >> >> >> means
> >> >> >> >> >> that every time I want to copy and paste in Hebrew I first
> >> >> >> >> >> have
> >> >> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> >> >> switch
> >> >> >> >> >> back to English, use the shortcuts and switch back to
> Hebrew.
> >> >> >> >> >> This
> >> >> >> is a
> >> >> >> >> >> very
> >> >> >> >> >> big problem for the flow of work, and makes the shortcuts
> >> >> >> >> >> hardly
> >> >> >> short.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Does anyone have a solution for this?
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Thank you.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> אלעד הן
> >> >> >> >> >> נייד: 052-5348554
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Hi Elad,
> >> >> >> >> >> It may be an issue with the way the Hebrew keyboard is
> mapped.
> >> >> >> >> >> The
> >> >> >> >> >> keyboard probably represents "V" and "C" incorrectly.
>  Which
> >> >> >> >> >> would
> >> >> >> >> >> make
> >> >> >> >> >> sense, which one becomes 'V' and which one becomes 'C'?
> There
> >> >> >> >> >> are
> >> >> >> >> >> at
> >> >> >> >> >> least
> >> >> >> >> >> 2 for each of those that I can think of, right?
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> You may find something here:
> >> >> >> >> >> http://penguin.org.il/
> >> >> >> >> >> Since it is an Israeli Linux site.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> I think this may be related to X keyboard mapping, though
> that
> >> >> >> >> >> is
> >> >> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> >> >> guess.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Sorry I do not know a specific solution, though.  You might
> >> >> >> >> >> try
> >> >> >> asking
> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> Hebrew specific IRC channels, or asking someone at a local
> >> >> >> >> >> Linux
> >> >> >> >> >> User
> >> >> >> >> >> Group.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> >> Regards
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> --
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