Fwd: Keyboard shortcuts (CTRL+C CTRL+V) don't work when keyboard is set to Hebrew

Sun Mar 1 20:30:05 UTC 2015

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What word processor?

On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 12:28 PM, אלעד הן <eladhen2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> It worked! Thank you so much!
>
> The only problem is now I seem to have lost the Hebrew spell checker, which
> I guess is part of the other Hebrew input method. Is there a way to get only
> the spell checker?
>
>
>
>
> אלעד הן
> נייד: 052-5348554
>
> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Walter Lapchynski <wxl at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>
>> Keyboard Input Methods in the Preferences menu. Or just run
>> `ibus-setup` from the command line. Or you can use the "Run" option in
>> the menu. Or you can use the Alt-F2 shortcut for that Run option.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 12:09 PM, אלעד הן <eladhen2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Well, I installed it but now embarrassingly I have no Idea where
>> > ibus-setup
>> > is...
>> >
>> > Anyway, as far as I know there are no physical differences between US
>> > and
>> > Hebrew keyboards.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > אלעד הן
>> > נייד: 052-5348554
>> >
>> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Walter Lapchynski <wxl at ubuntu.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Well, it might work with the Hebrew keyboard, too. It's worth trying
>> >> with
>> >> both.
>> >>
>> >> On 3/1/15, אלעד הן <eladhen2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Thanks! Well, I have a US keyboard too (I have little stickers for
>> >> > the
>> >> > Hebrew letters) so this definitely seems worth a try.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > אלעד הן
>> >> > נייד: 052-5348554
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Walter Lapchynski <wxl at ubuntu.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> One thing I read from there is potentially installing the
>> >> >> `ibus-m17n`
>> >> >> package and then choosing the Hebrew input method in `ibus-setup`. I
>> >> >> actually just did this, switched to the Hebrew input method and was
>> >> >> able to copy and paste no problem. Of course, I do have a US
>> >> >> keyboard,
>> >> >> so that might not be a good test ☺
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 11:25 AM, אלעד הן <eladhen2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > Thank you very much.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The problem is global as far as I can tell (in every program and
>> >> >> > even
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> > file manager).
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I will try changing the layout and see if it helps.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I came across this bit of information:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > http://en.libreofficeforum.org/node/1586
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > But I'm too ill-informed to understand if what they describe is
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > same
>> >> >> > problem and what exactly they're suggesting as a solution...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > אלעד הן
>> >> >> > נייד: 052-5348554
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 8:58 PM, Walter Lapchynski <wxl at ubuntu.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> First off, there is an [Ubuntu Local Community in Israel][1] that
>> >> >> >> you
>> >> >> >> may want to connect with, especially considering they have
>> >> >> >> probably
>> >> >> >> faced the same issue.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Secondly, this is not solely a Lubuntu issue. Sure, we have
>> >> >> >> different
>> >> >> >> GUI tools to do this and that but ultimately "under the hood"
>> >> >> >> Ubuntu
>> >> >> >> and Lubuntu is the same. That being said, it may be useful to ask
>> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> Ubuntu circles what the appropriate command line solution is. If
>> >> >> >> you
>> >> >> >> can figure that out, I'm sure we can translate that into an
>> >> >> >> appropriate Lubuntu GUI solution.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Now, is this only in the word processor or is this global? If
>> >> >> >> it's
>> >> >> >> only the word processor, you might want to see if it has better
>> >> >> >> support for Hebrew. For example, I know of the package
>> >> >> >> `libreoffice-l10n-he` which adds some additional support for
>> >> >> >> Hebrew.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> If it is global, then you may want to try the alternative
>> >> >> >> keyboard
>> >> >> >> layouts (lyx, phonetic, biblical). I have searched through the
>> >> >> >> plethora of options that `setxkbmap` offers (see `man
>> >> >> >> xkeyboard-config`) and I don't find anything particularly
>> >> >> >> obvious,
>> >> >> >> so
>> >> >> >> I would imagine that one of these three layouts probably has your
>> >> >> >> solution.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> My guess is either that this is specific to a particular
>> >> >> >> application
>> >> >> >> (in which case the answer may involve digging through its
>> >> >> >> configuration and/or complaining to the folks that make that
>> >> >> >> application) or that some existing keyboard layout or option
>> >> >> >> provides
>> >> >> >> the answer.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> It is possible that people just switch keyboard layouts. Sure
>> >> >> >> seems
>> >> >> >> strange, but it's possible. If you look at the "Switching to
>> >> >> >> another
>> >> >> >> layout" section in the aforementioned man page, you'll see you
>> >> >> >> can
>> >> >> >> define hotkeys to quickly make this change.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I will note that /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/il seems to be
>> >> >> >> written
>> >> >> >> by
>> >> >> >> someone who has a better sense of Hebrew than I do, referencing
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> "standard SI-1452." That being said, I my gut tells me they
>> >> >> >> probably
>> >> >> >> didn't miss this crucial set of hotkeys.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> If you discover the answer, please share with us! Perhaps even
>> >> >> >> better,
>> >> >> >> add what you find to the [Hebrew Localization Ubuntu wiki
>> >> >> >> page][2].
>> >> >> >> Good luck!
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> [1]: http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-il/
>> >> >> >> [2]: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HebrewLocalizationHowto
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 8:26 AM, אלעד הן <elad2040 at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > Thanks for responding. I'm to much of a newbie to understand
>> >> >> >> > most
>> >> >> >> > of
>> >> >> >> > what
>> >> >> >> > you said though :(
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > The site doesn't seem to be related to linux...
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > I looked through the different keyboard options in
>> >> >> >> > "preferences"
>> >> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >> > there
>> >> >> >> > aren't many of them, and nothing looks relevant...
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > אלעד הן
>> >> >> >> > נייד: 052-5348554
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Israel <israeldahl at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> On 03/01/2015 04:55 AM, אלעד הן wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Hi everyone. I'm a total newbie and probably doing this wrong
>> >> >> >> >> but
>> >> >> bare
>> >> >> >> >> with me... I tried searching for answers to this problem, but
>> >> >> although
>> >> >> >> >> I've
>> >> >> >> >> found several references to it, I couldn't find a solution.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Anyway, I installed lubuntu 14.04 (not the 64 bit version) on
>> >> >> >> >> my
>> >> >> >> >> old
>> >> >> >> >> laptop and I'm very pleased with the performances.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> When word-processing I mostly use Hebrew, and I've found the
>> >> >> >> >> Keyboard
>> >> >> >> >> shortcuts don't work when I'm the keyboard is switched to
>> >> >> >> >> Hebrew.
>> >> >> This
>> >> >> >> >> means
>> >> >> >> >> that every time I want to copy and paste in Hebrew I first
>> >> >> >> >> have
>> >> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> switch
>> >> >> >> >> back to English, use the shortcuts and switch back to Hebrew.
>> >> >> >> >> This
>> >> >> is a
>> >> >> >> >> very
>> >> >> >> >> big problem for the flow of work, and makes the shortcuts
>> >> >> >> >> hardly
>> >> >> short.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Does anyone have a solution for this?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Thank you.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> אלעד הן
>> >> >> >> >> נייד: 052-5348554
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Hi Elad,
>> >> >> >> >> It may be an issue with the way the Hebrew keyboard is mapped.
>> >> >> >> >> The
>> >> >> >> >> keyboard probably represents "V" and "C" incorrectly.   Which
>> >> >> >> >> would
>> >> >> >> >> make
>> >> >> >> >> sense, which one becomes 'V' and which one becomes 'C'?  There
>> >> >> >> >> are
>> >> >> >> >> at
>> >> >> >> >> least
>> >> >> >> >> 2 for each of those that I can think of, right?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> You may find something here:
>> >> >> >> >> http://penguin.org.il/
>> >> >> >> >> Since it is an Israeli Linux site.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> I think this may be related to X keyboard mapping, though that
>> >> >> >> >> is
>> >> >> >> >> a
>> >> >> >> >> guess.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Sorry I do not know a specific solution, though.  You might
>> >> >> >> >> try
>> >> >> asking
>> >> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> >> Hebrew specific IRC channels, or asking someone at a local
>> >> >> >> >> Linux
>> >> >> >> >> User
>> >> >> >> >> Group.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> Regards
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
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