Re: upgrade from Lubuntu 12 LTS to Lubuntu 14 LTS on the extremely old desktop?

Peter Golis golisp at
Tue Aug 11 13:00:31 UTC 2015

Hello Fritz,
did you have desktop or iBook?
Because iBook G4 (2003) with working frequency 933MHz had soldered 256M and it was expandable only by 1G. And Power Mac G4 (QuickSilver 2002) desktop was expandable to 1.5G of RAM. Could you please confirm how was possible to upgrade RAM into 2G in your computer which is unsupported memory size? This can confirm issues with RAM. May be those issues does not exists as I had not seen any yours logs from reported errors. 
Best Regards,
PS: If you had performed soldering of RAM into motherboard to replace 256M module, then which hardware did you had used? I have similar iBook M9164LL/A (800 MHz), and I have no issues with my hardware. But I'm not watching FB nor any huge JS mess which eat lot of RAM. Small deviations in functionality was allready fixed as you know from my previous emails with included how to fix.
> Od: Fritz Hudnut <este.el.paz at>
> Komu: "Herminio Hernandez Jr." <herminio.hernandezjr at>
> Dátum: 10.08.2015 20:00
> Predmet: Re: upgrade from Lubuntu 12 LTS to Lubuntu 14 LTS on the extremely old desktop?
> CC: "lubuntu user list"

Thanks for the follow-up . . . yeah, think I mentioned here that a recent version (last 3 weeks) of qupzilla crashed multiple times in the same iBook  . . . 14.04, so I tried it.  And historically I had the same issues with midori, so haven't check it lately . . . didn't see "luakit" in the synaptic search for browsers eligible for my system . . . but, might be worth playing with???

On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 10:07 AM, Herminio Hernandez Jr. <herminio.hernandezjr at <herminio.hernandezjr at>> wrote:
If the WebkitGTK JavaScript bug ever gets fixed in Ubuntu then you would be able to use midori, qupzilla, or even luakit. They use less resources than FF. 

Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 10, 2015, at 10:39 AM, Fritz Hudnut <este.el.paz at <este.el.paz at>> wrote:

@et al:

Just to report the "continuing saga" of PPC . . . last night, back over in the 933 MHz iBook w/546MB RAM, running 14.04 installed from mini.iso, because when I did the install was when there was some problem with Lu 14 installer . . . from Terminal I did a "dist-upgrade" for 122 MB of downloading . . . rebooted . . . everything came up fine.  Launched FF to check emails, saw a FB message reply, went to FB messaging, waiting for the previous message to show up, waiting, waiting, waiting . . . then in a flash/blink of an eye FF was "gone" from the screen . . . this was the newly updated FF.

Dialogue window opens, "Sorry, something happened to FF, we dont know what . . . not enough memory to report this problem . . . sorry again . . . ."

So, again, this **may** be exclusive to PPC, but, just shows that the older hardware might not be matching the system requirements from 14.04 . . . in this case perhaps not enough RAM in the iBook??  Over on the PM 3,1 in 12.04 that I've upgraded RAM to its max 2GB, FB will be painfully slow to load stuff, but, so far, no crashes.


On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Herminio Hernandez, Jr. <herminio.hernandezjr at <herminio.hernandezjr at>> wrote:
general suggestion
On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 9:04 PM, Fritz Hudnut <este.el.paz at <este.el.paz at>> wrote:

Funny . . . I didn't know other people have bills . . . hmmmm, total re-think on collective life in a capitalistic society.  But, when you say, "run the build command" . . . is this a general suggestion of something to do on the computer to fill its time . . . or specific to keeping my olde PM 3,1 running 12.04, but something that needs to be "built" . . . so that the upgrade for XFCE could then be installed ???


On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Herminio Hernandez, Jr. <herminio.hernandezjr at <herminio.hernandezjr at>> wrote:
We all got bills, just run the build command leave the computer, do what you gotta do, come back and you should be done :)



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