upgrade from Lubuntu 12 LTS to Lubuntu 14 LTS on the extremely old desktop?

Fritz Hudnut este.el.paz at gmail.com
Mon Aug 10 01:14:36 UTC 2015


Thanks for the emotional support, yes, sniff, it's a lonely world in linux
PPC . . . nobody calls, nobody "likes" my posts . . . the devs don't
respond to bug reports . . . .  : - (((((

But, sure, 450 MHz is "OK" for many local tasks, it just gets totally
overwhelmed in places like FB . . . .


Appreciate the reply as well, however, "get down to the terminal" . . .
right, but for what?  I do use the terminal for routine upgrades, but,
having spent time in fink and mintppc, where upgrades/installs took 8
hours, during which something would invariably break, I've moved on to the
more stable systems like the 'buntu flavors, that don't take so much time
and attention to just get them to run.  Like, if there was a wiki on how to
update xfce to 4.10 or 4.12 while in 12.04, and the CL instructions were
detailed . . . I could maybe find the time.  But, compiling a kernel??  Too
many things to do that I'm already ignoring . . . I've got "bills" . . .
"bills" . . . "bills" . . . .  : - )


On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Herminio Hernandez, Jr. <
herminio.hernandezjr at gmail.com> wrote:

> Fritz,
> I would strongly encourage you getting down to the command line. It will
> help you so much with Linux on PPC. I think once you get started you will
> see that tasks like applying patches, building .deb files, even compiling a
> kernel are not as daunting as they may sound. You will definitely feel that
> you are more in control of your computing freedom.
> On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Aere Greenway <Aere at dvorak-keyboards.com>
> wrote:
>> On 08/09/2015 04:37 PM, Fritz Hudnut wrote:
>>> But, this JWM for PPC has been mentioned before, perhaps by the time you
>>> have the time to do that, might be around when all support for 12.04 is
>>> dropped . . . .  It's "hard" to work with a 450 MHz processor these days.
>> Fritz:
>> I know (thanks to your reporting) that PPC support (or lack of such) is
>> its own 'bag of worms', unfortunately.  I am impressed with your dogged
>> determination in trying to solve the many problems strewn in your path.
>> But at least in the Intel world, I have a 450 megahertz HP Vectra test
>> machine, and it works with Lubuntu 14.04, 14.10, and now (more recently)
>> with Lubuntu 15.04 (15.04 tested-out better than 14.10).
>> It runs my MIDI music tests, including running Qsynth, Qjactctl,
>> Rosegarden, and Java.  It played a demanding MIDI sequence without a single
>> under-run error in qjackctl being reported.
>> That being said, it is a slow machine, that I would not recommend to
>> anyone.  Its best use is probably for me as a minimum-system test machine.
>> But someone could use it, if they were motivated to.
>> --
>> Sincerely,
>> Aere
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