upgrade from Lubuntu 12 LTS to Lubuntu 14 LTS on the extremely old desktop?

Israel israeldahl at gmail.com
Mon Aug 10 00:14:58 UTC 2015

Hi Hermino,
To be honest, compiling a kernel on 450 MHZ machine is kind of daunting
:)  I built a kernel package on an old Compaq that took over a day to
complete, that was 900MHZ with a 256MB RAM.

But building a deb for a kernel on Debian is incredibly easy, but does
require a very long compile process on an old computer.  I am not sure
if you could do it with qemu/deboostrap/et al on a faster computer... I
have had some issues doing that sort of thing before...

That said I agree fully.  Compiling is generally extremely easy...
unless you have to hunt for the depends, which is fairly simple if you
know what you are doing.

sudo apt-get install build-essential
sudo make install

creating a debian package is a bit more intensive... though in recent
versions there is that handy meta-package for it
ubuntu-dev-tools (IIRC)
Ubuntu is a super easy platform for development, though.  So nice to
sudo apt-get install lib/whatever/-dev

You never know Fritz you might find that you like hacking your own
computer a whole lot :)

On 08/09/2015 06:37 PM, Herminio Hernandez, Jr. wrote:
> Fritz,
> I would strongly encourage you getting down to the command line. It
> will help you so much with Linux on PPC. I think once you get started
> you will see that tasks like applying patches, building .deb files,
> even compiling a kernel are not as daunting as they may sound. You
> will definitely feel that you are more in control of your computing
> freedom.
> On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Aere Greenway
> <Aere at dvorak-keyboards.com <mailto:Aere at dvorak-keyboards.com>> wrote:
>     On 08/09/2015 04:37 PM, Fritz Hudnut wrote:
>         But, this JWM for PPC has been mentioned before, perhaps by
>         the time you have the time to do that, might be around when
>         all support for 12.04 is dropped . . . .  It's "hard" to work
>         with a 450 MHz processor these days.
>     Fritz:
>     I know (thanks to your reporting) that PPC support (or lack of
>     such) is its own 'bag of worms', unfortunately.  I am impressed
>     with your dogged determination in trying to solve the many
>     problems strewn in your path.
>     But at least in the Intel world, I have a 450 megahertz HP Vectra
>     test machine, and it works with Lubuntu 14.04, 14.10, and now
>     (more recently) with Lubuntu 15.04 (15.04 tested-out better than
>     14.10).
>     It runs my MIDI music tests, including running Qsynth, Qjactctl,
>     Rosegarden, and Java.  It played a demanding MIDI sequence without
>     a single under-run error in qjackctl being reported.
>     That being said, it is a slow machine, that I would not recommend
>     to anyone.  Its best use is probably for me as a minimum-system
>     test machine.  But someone could use it, if they were motivated to.
>     -- 
>     Sincerely,
>     Aere


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