upgrade from Lubuntu 12 LTS to Lubuntu 14 LTS on old desktop?
Richard H. McCullough
rhm at pioneerca.com
Sun Aug 9 15:20:20 UTC 2015
I installed b43-fwcutter yesterday.
I installed firmware-b43-installer just now.
Output of lsusb is attached.
Output of usb-devices is attached.
When I uplug Ethernet cable, I get internet disconnected message.
When I look at Interfaces, I see
Bytes Received 0
Bytes Sent 0
Network Name (SSID) blank -- should be 2WIRE155
Bit Rate 0 Mb/s
Transmission Power Unknown
Mode Managed
Status 0
Link Quality 0
Signal / Noise 0/46166446
When I reboot
1) I get upper right corner message saying
WiFi networks available, use network menu
2) I push autoconnect button on Netgear WNA3100M
3) I have my Lenovo laptop logged on 192.168.1.254
Netgear WNA3100M shows as device e4:f4:c6:4c:5e:ce, IP 192.168.1.68, status OFF
I enable WiFI Protected Setup, then Push WPS Button Remotely, and get
"Errors" or "Successful Configuration"
but in either case Netgear WNA3100M is not connected
4) back on my Dell desktop
Network Settings show no DNS Servers and no Search Domains
because of weird display problem with Ubuntu 14.04, I not sure
if settings are really blank, or if my settings of
DNS 192.168.1.254
search attlocal.net
are still there
Maybe manual setup would work (it did on Windows 8.1)
but I don't know how to do manual setup on Ubuntu 14.04
Dick McCullough
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 07:58:21 -0500
From: israeldahl at gmail.com
To: rhm at pioneerca.com; lubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: upgrade from Lubuntu 12 LTS to Lubuntu 14 LTS on old desktop?
Hi, sometimes Dell needs b43 drivers
that is all... nothing big.
Does your computer have b43?
I didn't mean to misdirect you if I did. Some Dell computers need
the b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer packages.
It is only an 'issue' because I have to plug in to the Ethernet
when setting up a laptop. It is remarkably easy to do, (if you
know to install it)
The USB WiFi adapter is a different issue.
it might help to post the terminal output of:
lsusb
On 08/09/2015 07:43 AM, Richard H. McCullough wrote:
I did update my Dell 8200 to Ubuntu 14.04 with no
problems at all.
Update retained my LXDE.
What is the b43 issue?
Is it related to USB wireless adapter problem? I just bought
Netgear WNA3100M
and have not been able to get it to work. After googling I had
several conflicting
stories about how to fix it.
(I have also been wondering if my Belkin N300 could ever
work.)
1) First I tried the ndiswrapper approach. I installed
ndiswrapper programs and
bcmwl-kernel-source and b43-fwcutter.
Not too sure what part of broadcom-sta-source is
installed.
Had weird problem with Synaptic Package Manager -- every time
my mouse passed
over a display window, all the info disappeared!!! Sometimes
if I played with the
scroll bar, the info would reappear.
WNA3100M never connected.
It's possible I may also have Network settings
wrong
since I never tried to use wireless adapter before.
I had same disappearing info. problem.
Ubuntu seemed to override some of my settings. DNS was usually
set to 127.0.1.1
overriding my DNS setting of 192.168.1.254 for AT&T
U-verse router.
2) Then I went to Ask Ubuntu and found the rtl8192cu driver
approach.
Without uninstalling the stuff from step (1) above,
I installed the driver using
git clone
https://github.com/lwfinger/rtl8192cu.git
cd rtl8192cu
make
sudo make install
But the WNA3100M never worked. It sort of looked
like it connected,
but there was never any data transferred, and it
sort of looked like
I was still on Ethernet (looking at Interfaces
with System Profiler and Benchmark
and using lsusb and usb-devices) even though I
unplugged the Ethernet cable.
3) FYI
I was able to use Netgear WNA3100M on Windows 8.1
Pro,
but finding device (& rest of installation)
failed on Windows 10 Pro.
Can you explain what's happening & how to fix
it?
Dick McCullough
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 21:37:00 -0500
From: israeldahl at gmail.com
To: lubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: upgrade from Lubuntu 12 LTS to Lubuntu 14 LTS on
old desktop?
@Fritz
I am was trying to explain not to use the 12.04 version of
LXDE, sorry if that was unclear.
To recap:
You can install a PPA to have an up-to-date WM/DE (possibly
even LXDE).
So yes, you CAN stay on 12.04.
But Dells usually work pretty well (aside from the b43 issue
sometimes, maybe others). 14.04 is quite nice, so if they
can upgrade I'd suggest it for sure.
On 08/08/2015 12:47 PM, Fritz Hudnut wrote:
Hi,
In short: Yes you can, and should. Do not use
12.04 as the version of
LXDE (what Lubuntu is built on) is not supported.
In Long:
You can still use 12.04 if you want to use a PPA
to install a different
interface. But even still 14.04 is a very snappy
system. I'd suggest
upgrading to 12.04 for many reasons.
et al:
Just to rebutt on this somewhat confusing advice,
"do not use 12.04" followed by "I'd suggest
upgrading to 12.04 for many reasons" ????? : - ))
I still have Xu 12.04 running on my PM 3,1; I just
got a number of updates even last weekend on it.
I've considered the software reminders to "upgrade
now to 14.04" on it . . . I did move my iBook 933
MHz w/ 546 MB RAM to 14.04, but doing so was not as
trouble free as doing a 12.04 install. In 14 I had
to do an xorg.conf file to keep display from
freezing, and, then among other issues, the i2c
thingie so that there is no sound.
Of course this is in the **problem area*** of
being PPC, but, in comparison, 12.04 installed w/o
issues, and, other than not having "suspend" . . .
it is fine. There is always a new flavor of linux
coming down the pike, but, for the old hardware
perhaps whatever runs best/easiest is the best
choice.
Will I ever bring my PM up to 14??? perhaps; I
recently tested the LiveDVD of Lu 14.04.2 on it, and
posted my experience of having no need for boot
params, it was a bit "snappier" as far as running
commands in the Terminal went; but then the window
title bar text is illegible . . . whereas everywhere
else the display resolution was fine . . . . Very
odd, not a total showstopper, but, why take time to
upgrade the old machine, and then spend time getting
it to do basic stuff, stuff that 12.04 is doing just
fine??? Didn't get any comments from the list on
that one . . . in terms of suggestions on how to
render titlebar text so it would be read-able, or
ideas on why it would be un-readable, when the rest
is fine.
Israel has mentioned "ToriOS" here on the list a
few times along with JWM, which is possibly still
based on 12.04??? Would that be a way to get an
update on 12.04, but still keep the stability and
ease of installation . . . rather than increasing
system requirements on hardware to move it up to
14?? Just trying to show that there might be
benefit for staying with 12 on low spec equipment.
F.
PS: Someone mentioned qupzilla here and awhile
back, so I was looking for a browser that could work
on my PPC stuff . . . couldn't get it to show up in
12, but on the iBook with 14 it did, so I installed
it . . . when I tried to "go" to Gmail or other
webmail pages, it crashed--several times . . . it
was "removed." : - )
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