Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

Israel israeldahl at gmail.com
Sun Apr 26 22:51:13 UTC 2015

I think there is some sort of issue with isolinux.
In 14.10 isolinux changed A LOT....
So I think there is something that doesn't always go right making
startup disks for:
  versions > 14.10 when using <=14.04
  and using >=14.10 to make disks for <14.10

This has effected startup disk creator, if I remember right (don't quote
me on this... I just think I remembered finding this out when
discovering isolinux in 14.10 was not the same as I was used to in

Of course the easy work around is to use mkusb, as it simply writes the
file to your USB, and doesn't care much what version of ISOlinux you are
using as it does not chroot your USB or anything complicated... it just
uses dd very safely.  It defaults to USB only mode, and makes you double
check that this IS what you want to do first.

On 04/26/2015 04:31 PM, Aere Greenway wrote:
> On 04/26/2015 02:54 PM, Brendan Perrine wrote:
>> On Sunday, April 26, 2015 8:18:08 PM UTC, Aere Greenway wrote:
>>> I know it successfully wrote the GRUB-PC bootloader to the
>>> hard-drive of the machine being installed-to, because that system
>>> worked fine, and the new system is the one that is initially
>>> selected in the GRUB menu (it used to be a different system).
>> If you have bootloadaer install problems with disks I find I
>> sometimes don't expeirence these problems. This can also happen if
>> you have a desktop with many disks in it but then again you may want
>> a custom setup if that is your usecase. I don't really think my mom
>> would come home from the store with a desktop with 3 disks inside it.
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1431067
>> describes one such problem I had but could never reproduce this with
>> manual partitioning. A recent jupiter broadcasting podcast from
>> Fridat suggest thsi might be more widespread and may also affect
>> 14.04 in which case getting this fixed for 14.04.3 will be really
>> ncie since it is long term support and what I would want most new or
>> non technical users on anyway.
> Brendan:
> All of my machines have multiple partitions, and I always do manual
> partitioning.  The USB drive itself (in this case) has only one
> partition, but often (not in this case) I create USB drives with an
> additional partition, which the USB drive system can access (as well
> as other systems), and read/write files from/to.
> If it hadn't successfully written the GRUB-PC boot loader to the
> hard-disk (of the machine being installed-to), the other old system
> partition (Lubuntu 14.01.3) would have booted by default (the top menu
> entry in the GRUB menu).
> The partition GRUB is last written-to becomes the system that boots
> by-default, and the newly-installed system became the top entry of the
> GRUB menu.
> I have not (before 15.04) experienced the case where the USB drive
> becomes un-bootable after installing from it.  I have used USB drives
> for installing in several prior releases (though I started using
> Unetbootin only with 14.04 and 14.10).


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