Lost my GUI in 14.10

Henk Terhell hterhell at chello.nl
Mon Sep 8 21:56:51 UTC 2014


No, that must be another problem of other nvidia graphic cards, because 
my L14.04 is still going strong and is kept up-to-date. Anyway, I tried 
this command but these downgraded drivers were not recognized.

Further, I included in lubuntu 14.10 the udev file (as rule for systemd) 
   /etc/udev/rules.d/71-nvidia.rules suggested in bug report #1365336 
but again no success.

Henk

Israel schreef op 8-9-2014 om 23:23:
> Hey, Henk...
> I think you made the news...
> http://www.webupd8.org/2014/09/recent-update-broke-ubuntu-desktop-on.html
>
> On 09/08/2014 08:18 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:
>> Lubuntu 14.04 LTS currently works very well on my  old laptop as well
>> as on my Acer Aspire T-180 386 desktop.
>>
>> That is quite a distinct experience compared to the trouble on this
>> Acer desktop with the 14.10 beta versions of both Lubuntu and Xubuntu.
>> I downloaded today the daily build of 7 september of Lubuntu 14.10
>> (Utopic Unicorn). Tried to upgrade nvidia 304.123 driver (nouveau
>> driver will crash) and now there is no way to get a GUI. I'm only
>> arriving at the terminal and after login and command startx this ends
>> up in a blank screen.
>>
>> Henk
>>
>> Basil Fernie schreef op 8-9-2014 om 12:11:
>>> ...or, Lost MY GUI in 14.04!
>>>
>>> Been watching this one with a sort of morbid interest, because my laptop
>>> is sitting with a failed upgrade from 12.04.? Symptoms include  a
>>> frequent
>>> failure to display desktop on boot apart from taskbar across bottom of
>>> screen and conky in top right-hand corner (at least the Xserver is
>>> presumably working), I can select and run any application from the main
>>> Lubuntu menu, so am not totally immobilised, but try "Send to gesktop"?
>>> Nothing visible happens.
>>>
>>> Also lack of the volume control applet icon on the taskbar so I have no
>>> convenient means of muting sound. Certainly the sound is working, but
>>> there is no control on the desktop. Task Manager advises pulseaudio
>>> at work, also reveals
>>> gvfs-afc-volume-monitor  and gvfs-ufd-volume-monitor  and
>>> gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor  are active, whatever they may be I don't
>>> know how to control them or even if I should be able to.
>>>
>>> And I have 817 uninstalled upgrades waiting for ...what? That number
>>> has come down from over 830 after repeated apt-get update, apt-get
>>> upgrade, apt-get autoremove sequences; it has stuck now stubbornly on
>>> 817. Seems to be blocked by a purported lack af sane-devices (but I
>>> can scan without difficulty from my HP DeskJet F4180...)
>>>
>>> Every now and then a "System Upgrade" advisory window opens - if I
>>> click "Run" it frowns at me and says "This program cannot do an
>>> upgrade from "Trusty" to "Precise". Which is understandable, but I
>>> was rather hoping it wouls complete the upgrade from the older to the
>>> newer.
>>>
>>> Oh, and I have 2  instances of   nmapplet-manager  running after
>>> boot, but this is a know and resolved issue.
>>>
>>> All this in the wake of an attempted click-and-lean-back,
>>> watch-the-terminal-messages-scrolling-past automated upgrade from
>>> 12.04.04 to 14.04.1 (I had decided to wait for the first point update
>>> to be released, memories of Microsoft days, better safe than sorry
>>> right?)
>>>
>>> Earlier, though, while still purportedly runnining on 12.04.?, and
>>> religiously using "Update Manager" to stay, well, up-to-date, I
>>> wwould be instructed to insert my 14.04 CD (DVD) as some needed files
>>> were on it. So I did, the ISO DVD with which I had done live boots
>>> for version-testing, and concluded that I would wait for 14.04.1
>>> before doing the system upgrade. Apparently UM couldn't penetrate the
>>> .iso barrier (directory structure) to find the files it needed...
>>> Which CD/DVD was it looking for, please advise? Surely this shouldn't
>>> be a problem?
>>>
>>> So while I would be delighted to help test L14.10, I'm not too
>>> sanguine about committing time to a version which it doesn't seem
>>> will be clear of the problems I already face, but will have the added
>>> problem, I hear, that  synaptiks won't be usable with it. Synaptiks
>>> is the only reason I can type this e-mail on my laptop without going
>>> crazy. This could be show-stopper stuff.
>>>
>>> Currently I'm transferring workload bit-by-bit to a parallel
>>> installation of LXDE 14.04.1 which of course depends heavily on
>>> Lubuntu. It's not perfect, of course, but seems to be clear of most
>>> of the hassles encountered here - so far.
>>>
>>> Strength and fortitude and great appreciation to all,
>>>
>>> Basil Fernie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, 07 Sep 2014 10:34:24 +0200, Henk Terhell <hterhell at chello.nl>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> There are still several issues on both Lubuntu 14.10 and Xubuntu
>>>> 14.10 on my device.
>>>> Main issues are:
>>>> Lubuntu 14.10:
>>>> - only after a terminal upgrade of nvidia driver 304 I get a GUI
>>>> back.The automatic upgrade from the menu of the software updater
>>>> gave me again the old version of 304.123 resulting in a blank screen.
>>>> - login is required after screen time-out, which cannot be switched
>>>> off. The handling through Xfce Power Manager is confusing and
>>>> doesn't function well (e.g. system sleep mode cannot be changed from
>>>> suspend). Installing xscreensaver could help to control the handling
>>>> of screen time-out, but such action is not needed in L14.04.
>>>>
>>>> I will replace shortly my current L14.10 with a fresh daily build
>>>> and see what happens, but I don't expect differences.
>>>>
>>>> Xubuntu 14.10:
>>>> - only from terminal login and command startx I get a GUI with
>>>> latest driver 304.123
>>>> - although the nvidia sound card is recognized with command inxi
>>>> -AG, there is no output to the internal monitor speakers (in lubuntu
>>>> 14.10 there is no sound problem at all)
>>>>
>>>> Henk
>>>>
>>>> Israel schreef op 6-9-2014 om 20:25:
>>>>> Great Henk!
>>>>> So everything works for both L(X)ubuntu?
>>>>> This issue shouldn't be present then in the daily builds, is this
>>>>> correct?
>>>>>
>>>>> You say there is a sound problem now?
>>>>> Is this for Lubuntu or Xubuntu?
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe testing the daily image for Lubuntu will confirm that the
>>>>> startx/nvidia issue is fixed.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 09/06/2014 03:19 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:
>>>>>> I just read about an upgrade fix that was issued for nvidia 304.123
>>>>>> (see
>>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1365336 at
>>>>>> #45; there is an explanation at #32)
>>>>>> Xubuntu 14.10 still needs startx to boot the desktop after an upgrade
>>>>>> to this driver was received.
>>>>>> Very strange there is still a sound problem in this distro.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In Lubuntu 14.10 I did therefore also an upgrade sudo upgrade
>>>>>> nvidia-304  and got the desktop back!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Henk
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Israel schreef op 5-9-2014 om 22:33:
>>>>>>> Hi Henk,
>>>>>>> So, if I understand you
>>>>>>> Lubuntu cannot enter the Destkop, because it cannot start the
>>>>>>> xserver.
>>>>>>> Xubuntu fails to start the Xserver, but can start it from terminal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is this correct?  The issue may still be the display manager since
>>>>>>> Xubuntu does not start X automatically.  However there is a
>>>>>>> possibility
>>>>>>> that Xorg in Utopic has changes that make supporting your card
>>>>>>> difficult.  I wonder if there are any xorg or xserver updates
>>>>>>> since you
>>>>>>> downloaded Lubuntu.  I think someone with more understanding of the
>>>>>>> entire display process of Linux needs to jump in here...
>>>>>>> But...  keep an eye on the updates, and see what packages come in an
>>>>>>> either fix or break the machine.  I may set up a VM to test this,
>>>>>>> but I
>>>>>>> have some other stuff going on right now that is taking up a lot of
>>>>>>> time :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 09/05/2014 02:46 PM, Henk Terhell wrote:
>>>>>>>> Strange enough Xubuntu 14.10 on the same PC doesn't start in GUI
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> hangs after every boot at the terminal. After login and StartX the
>>>>>>>> desktop appears.
>>>>>>>> Both nouveau and NVDIA 304.123 video drivers do work well in
>>>>>>>> Xubuntu
>>>>>>>> 14.10 without any screen freezes so far . So there is difference
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> Lubuntu 14.10.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In Lubuntu 14.10, sound handling is much improved and worked for me
>>>>>>>> out-of-the-box.
>>>>>>>> In Xubuntu 14.10 I haven't yet figured out how to get sound as
>>>>>>>> Pulseaudio cannot find there my built-in monitor speakers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Henk
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Henk Terhell schreef op 5-9-2014 om 17:12:
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Israel
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I had filed a bug report #1363919 in the nvidia drivers section
>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>> days ago as I couldn't find a related report.
>>>>>>>>> The screen dump of startx is different as before. It now only
>>>>>>>>> shows a
>>>>>>>>> non-fatal error about XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (Type
>>>>>>>>> "ONE_Level" has
>>>>>>>>> 1 levels but <RALT> has 2 symbols).
>>>>>>>>> A good idea to install Xubuntu 14.10 alongside. I'll let you know.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Henk
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Israel schreef op 5-9-2014 om 16:24:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Henk,
>>>>>>>>>> My guess is that this is something to do with lightdm still,
>>>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> just got an upgrade for it.
>>>>>>>>>> That would be the place to start looking.  You could search
>>>>>>>>>> Launchpad to
>>>>>>>>>> see if there is a bug related to this issue.  If you cannot
>>>>>>>>>> find any,
>>>>>>>>>> I'd suggest opening a bug for it.  It may effect users of
>>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>> desktop environments as well, and then we can know that it is
>>>>>>>>>> not a
>>>>>>>>>> Lubuntu specific issue.  If it is specific to Lubuntu then it
>>>>>>>>>> may be
>>>>>>>>>> related to the Lubuntu session file.... (sorry I can't remember
>>>>>>>>>> what it
>>>>>>>>>> is called at the moment).  This is the Lubuntu specific 'startx'
>>>>>>>>>> command.
>>>>>>>>>> I am guessing you still cannot 'startx' and get X up.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You could also try downgrading lightdm, I suppose, but that
>>>>>>>>>> can be
>>>>>>>>>> rather messy when you do things like that...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Another option would be to install something like Xubuntu in a
>>>>>>>>>> secondary
>>>>>>>>>> partition and see if you are effected with the same issue when
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> update.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hope this is fully fixed before release!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 09/05/2014 08:34 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Israel
>>>>>>>>>>> If I recall correctly I got two times upgrades of 14.10 in
>>>>>>>>>>> last two
>>>>>>>>>>> days, 3 sept. and today.
>>>>>>>>>>> Lost my desktop again with the first one.
>>>>>>>>>>> The output of your command is below:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Henk
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> libdvdnav4:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> simple-scan:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> python3-gi:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> linux-headers-generic:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> linux-image-generic:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> linux-libc-dev:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> python-gi:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> python-gobject:all
>>>>>>>>>>> python3-update-manager:all
>>>>>>>>>>> update-manager-core:all
>>>>>>>>>>> update-manager:all
>>>>>>>>>>> libldap-2.4-2:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> lshw:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> usb-creator-gtk:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> usb-creator-common:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> lightdm:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> liblightdm-gobject-1-0:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> language-pack-en:all
>>>>>>>>>>> language-pack-gnome-en:all
>>>>>>>>>>> iproute2:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> libmpdec2:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> libhunspell-1.3-0:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> libstartup-notification0:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> python3-problem-report:all
>>>>>>>>>>> python3-apport:all
>>>>>>>>>>> apport:all
>>>>>>>>>>> apport-gtk:all
>>>>>>>>>>> libfm-extra4:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> libfm-gtk-data:all
>>>>>>>>>>> libfm-data:all
>>>>>>>>>>> libfm-gtk4:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> libfm4:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> libfm-modules:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> upstart:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> upstart-bin:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> systemd-shim:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> binutils:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> cpp:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> gcc:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> g++:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> pcmanfm:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> lxshortcut:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> libitm1:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> libgomp1:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> gcc-4.9-base:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> libstdc++6:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> libasan1:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> libubsan0:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> libcilkrts5:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> libatomic1:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> libquadmath0:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> libgcc-4.9-dev:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> cpp-4.9:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> gcc-4.9:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> g++-4.9:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> libstdc++-4.9-dev:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> libgcc1:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> libpulse0:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> libpulse-mainloop-glib0:i386
>>>>>>>>>>> linux-libc-dev:i386
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Israel schreef op 5-9-2014 om 15:00:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Henk,
>>>>>>>>>>>> What packages were upgraded on your system?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Something like this command:
>>>>>>>>>>>> awk '$3~/^upgrade$/ {print $4;}' /var/log/dpkg.log
>>>>>>>>>>>> can get that info.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 09/05/2014 03:52 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The GUI has gone again after upgrades this week ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Henk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Henk Terhell schreef op 2-9-2014 om 00:28:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The upgrade received today on Lubuntu 14.10 has fully
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resolved
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nvida-304.123 works OK now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My thanks to the dev team.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Henk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Henk Terhell schreef op 1-9-2014 om 00:26:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After purging driver NVIDIA-304 I got my desktop back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> default nouveau driver.  However opening Firefox rapidly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> caused a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen freeze.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The older NVIDIA-173 did the same after installing and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rebooting. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> therefore switched back to NVIDIA-304.123 from the list and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GUI...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So now I know (a) the absence of GUI was caused by the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driver
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (b) none of the recommended video drivers for Lubuntu 14.10
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beta can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be used on this Geforce 6100 card.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For Lubuntu 14.04 (and 14.10 alpha) the recommended
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NVIDIA-304.117
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not cause any problems.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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