Question from a newbie about backup software and more

Andre Rodovalho andre.rodovalho at gmail.com
Fri May 16 17:55:47 UTC 2014


Clonezilla is a good option too... If you are skilled enough, or have some
time to learn and not to mess everything, it is possible to clone the
restore partition an MBR with DD. See this page:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Disk_Cloning


2014-05-16 12:02 GMT-03:00 Phill Whiteside <PhillW at phillw.net>:

> an external USB capable hard disk, they are very in expensive now compared
> to when I bought mine!
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
>
>
> On 16 May 2014 15:50, John Hupp <lubuntu at prpcompany.com> wrote:
>
>>  Regarding the partition shrink, when I was setting up a dual-boot
>> laptop recently I was mostly following
>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoResizeWindowsPartitions
>>
>> But my notes about problems on this Lenovo:
>>
>> *Rescue and Recovery hidden system folder C:\RRbackups is unmovable by
>> any defrag program I tried and keeps me from further shrinking the Windows
>> partition more than an initial 30 GB.*
>>
>> *Lenovo forum notes that the folder and/or its contents may be reliably
>> removed under any Live CD.*
>>
>> *Current folder size: 14.0 GB (probably holds a system image I did at
>> some point).  Delete folder under Lubuntu Live.*
>>
>> *This triggered "Installing device driver software" at next Vista boot.
>> No Unknown Devices when done.*
>>
>> *There was still an unmovable $UsnJrnl file near the end of the
>> partition.  From an elevated command prompt, I deleted it with:*
>> *    fsutil usn deletejournal /n c:*
>> *It will eventually be recreated.*
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> For whole-drive imaging in a Linux or Linux+Windows case, the Clonezilla
>> Live CD should do a good job of imaging to an external hard drive or a big
>> flash drive.
>>
>> Clonezilla can also create a bootable rescue DVD with both Clonezilla
>> Live and the image on it, but currently it can't span to multiple DVD's.
>> For Lubuntu-only, Clonezilla can easily fit everything on one DVD.  But
>> this won't work for Linux+Windows.  Even an 8GB DL DVD isn't big enough.
>> Since I like DVD for rescue media (cheaper to give away), I currently don't
>> have a free solution for this case.  [*Does anyone?*]  I think Clonezilla
>> can create a bootable rescue flash drive, so that may be good enough for
>> many people.
>>
>>
>> On 5/16/2014 8:27 AM, Andre Rodovalho wrote:
>>
>> If you can boot to Windows, I do recommend you to use Windows backup
>> tool, or if you have a notebook, I specially recommend to use the restore
>> function made by manufacturer...
>>
>> Usually there is option to backup your restore partition to DVD on those
>> backup softwares made by manufacturer. The Windows tool saves all
>> partitions, to DVD or Big thumb drive!
>>
>>  For Windows system backup, check the links on this page: *http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/products/features/backup-and-restore
>> <http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/products/features/backup-and-restore>*
>>
>>  For factory restore (manufacturer): It depends, you can try to search
>> "recovery" on the search tool of start button...
>>
>>
>>  2014-05-16 5:26 GMT-03:00 Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Hi Basil,
>>>
>>> 1. I think you can reach more helpers for resizing and backing up
>>> Windows at the Ubuntu Forums.
>>>
>>> http://ubuntuforums.org
>>>
>>> 2. But I'll start helping here ...
>>>
>>> I don't know what happened, so that you cannot resize the Windows
>>> partition (with NTFS file system I assume). Maybe you are not closing
>>> Windows (but hibernating), maybe the are errors in the file system,
>>> maybe you made a dynamic partition.
>>>
>>> Use 'Windows tools' to fix Windows and Windows's file system. Then you
>>> can change its size.
>>>
>>> I think you might fail to restore Windows from a backup to a smaller
>>> partition. It is better to decrease the size and make a second backup
>>> (keep both backups if possible).
>>>
>>> It is probably possible to make recovery disks now. It is worth trying.
>>>
>>> -o-
>>>
>>> I don't think there is a dedicated Lubuntu tool for backup. Use a
>>> general tool, either a Windows tool or a linux tool. Do you want a
>>> complete image of the drive? Or 'only' backup of the personal data
>>> files, or something in between?
>>>
>>> See these links about backup
>>>
>>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem
>>>
>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2223693
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Nio
>>>
>>> 2014-05-16 09:10, Basil Fernie skrev:
>>>  > Another question, really, but very close... If I should rather post
>>> to a
>>> > different link, please let me know.
>>> >
>>> > I want tp backup the Win7 system partition that came with my laptop,
>>> > reduce it a whole lot and turn about 100GB of space over to dedicated
>>> > Linux use. GParted doesn't want to touch it currently, because in the
>>> > process of shrinking it earlier to make space available for the present
>>> > Lubuntu installation, something apparently went wrong with some
>>> > parameter with the result that while I can acces everything there and
>>> > still boot into Windows, I cannot resize it.
>>> >
>>> > It has about 110GB of win7 installation and data, plus about 130GB of
>>> > unused space. Much of the data is already backed up elswhere.
>>> >
>>> > So my plan is to backup the entire bootable Win7 partition onto an
>>> > external USB drive which already contains a backup of my Linux
>>> > operations, try reformatting the partition as Win32, then try shrinking
>>> > it by 100GB and re-installing the backup onto it. If successful then
>>> > I'll remove some of the data backups and shrink it some more. If needs
>>> > be, I could just scrub the entire disk, set up a Win32 partition of say
>>> > 150GB for the Win7 restoration, use the remainder of the disk for a new
>>> > Lubuntu14.04 installation and live happily ever after.
>>> >
>>> > So I have two main problems: (i) what (Lubuntu) package should I use to
>>> > backup the Win7 bootable partition that will allow me to restore it
>>> onto
>>> > a smaller clean partition? There was no recovery CD when I bought the
>>> > laptop... is it too late to make one from the recovery partition that
>>> it
>>> > came with, and if so how?
>>> > (ii) should I plan for having to erase and repartition the entire disk?
>>> >
>>> > Actually, I keep the Win7 partition merely so that every six months or
>>> > so I can have the pleasure of catching up with all the Window upgrades
>>> > (aka anti-virus measures) overnight; but I'm prepared to do this, and
>>> to
>>> > give over let's say 30GB of the HDU, in order to have A working Windows
>>> > boot partition Just In Case Wine doesn't help in a particular
>>> situation..
>>> >
>>> > Any advice, even comments, would be welcome.
>>> >
>>> > Basil
>>> >
>>> > Pretoria, South Africa
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, 14 May 2014 21:37:25 +0200, James McCoy
>>> > <spaceknight2 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >     I been using Ubuntu (now running 13.10) for some time and know it
>>> >     comes with backup software like Deja Dup already included. I just
>>> >     started learning about Lubuntu 14.04 and plan to install it in my
>>> HP
>>> >     64 bit laptop and wonder does it also have built-in backup software
>>> >     or do I need to install it?
>>> >
>>> >     If I need to install backup software - does anyone have suggestions
>>> >     for backup software for Lubuntu?
>>> >
>>> >     Ubuntu has "Ubuntu Tweak" - is there similar software for Lubuntu?
>>> I
>>> >     heard about "Lubuntu Tweak" but do not know anything about it. What
>>> >     is it like? Will Ubuntu Tweak work on Lubuntu?
>>> >
>>> >     Is there any kind of listings/directories of software and/or
>>> >     applications for Lubuntu in particular? I know of websites "Appnr"
>>> >     and "Linux App Finder" - but they have apps for Ubuntu in general.
>>> I
>>> >     am looking for lightweight versions of Ubuntu apps (example -
>>> >     lightweight version of firewall "Firestarter" or lightweight
>>> version
>>> >     of video editing software Kino/Kdenlive).
>>> >
>>> >     James
>>> >     Indiana / USA
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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>>> >
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