Question from a newbie about backup software and more
John Hupp
lubuntu at prpcompany.com
Fri May 16 14:50:40 UTC 2014
Regarding the partition shrink, when I was setting up a dual-boot laptop
recently I was mostly following
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoResizeWindowsPartitions
But my notes about problems on this Lenovo:
/Rescue and Recovery hidden system folder C:\RRbackups is unmovable
by any defrag program I tried and keeps me from further shrinking
the Windows partition more than an initial 30 GB.//
//
//Lenovo forum notes that the folder and/or its contents may be
reliably removed under any Live CD.//
//
//Current folder size: 14.0 GB (probably holds a system image I did
at some point). Delete folder under Lubuntu Live.//
//
//This triggered "Installing device driver software" at next Vista
boot. No Unknown Devices when done.//
//
//There was still an unmovable $UsnJrnl file near the end of the
partition. From an elevated command prompt, I deleted it with://
// fsutil usn deletejournal /n c://
//It will eventually be recreated.//
/
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For whole-drive imaging in a Linux or Linux+Windows case, the Clonezilla
Live CD should do a good job of imaging to an external hard drive or a
big flash drive.
Clonezilla can also create a bootable rescue DVD with both Clonezilla
Live and the image on it, but currently it can't span to multiple
DVD's. For Lubuntu-only, Clonezilla can easily fit everything on one
DVD. But this won't work for Linux+Windows. Even an 8GB DL DVD isn't
big enough. Since I like DVD for rescue media (cheaper to give away), I
currently don't have a free solution for this case. [*Does anyone?*] I
think Clonezilla can create a bootable rescue flash drive, so that may
be good enough for many people.
On 5/16/2014 8:27 AM, Andre Rodovalho wrote:
> If you can boot to Windows, I do recommend you to use Windows backup
> tool, or if you have a notebook, I specially recommend to use the
> restore function made by manufacturer...
>
> Usually there is option to backup your restore partition to DVD on
> those backup softwares made by manufacturer. The Windows tool saves
> all partitions, to DVD or Big thumb drive!
>
> For Windows system backup, check the links on this page:
> *http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/products/features/backup-and-restore*
> *
> *
> For factory restore (manufacturer): It depends, you can try to search
> "recovery" on the search tool of start button...
>
>
> 2014-05-16 5:26 GMT-03:00 Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund at gmail.com
> <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com>>:
>
> Hi Basil,
>
> 1. I think you can reach more helpers for resizing and backing up
> Windows at the Ubuntu Forums.
>
> http://ubuntuforums.org
>
> 2. But I'll start helping here ...
>
> I don't know what happened, so that you cannot resize the Windows
> partition (with NTFS file system I assume). Maybe you are not closing
> Windows (but hibernating), maybe the are errors in the file system,
> maybe you made a dynamic partition.
>
> Use 'Windows tools' to fix Windows and Windows's file system. Then you
> can change its size.
>
> I think you might fail to restore Windows from a backup to a smaller
> partition. It is better to decrease the size and make a second backup
> (keep both backups if possible).
>
> It is probably possible to make recovery disks now. It is worth
> trying.
>
> -o-
>
> I don't think there is a dedicated Lubuntu tool for backup. Use a
> general tool, either a Windows tool or a linux tool. Do you want a
> complete image of the drive? Or 'only' backup of the personal data
> files, or something in between?
>
> See these links about backup
>
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem
>
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2223693
>
> Best regards
> Nio
>
> 2014-05-16 09:10, Basil Fernie skrev:
> > Another question, really, but very close... If I should rather
> post to a
> > different link, please let me know.
> >
> > I want tp backup the Win7 system partition that came with my laptop,
> > reduce it a whole lot and turn about 100GB of space over to
> dedicated
> > Linux use. GParted doesn't want to touch it currently, because
> in the
> > process of shrinking it earlier to make space available for the
> present
> > Lubuntu installation, something apparently went wrong with some
> > parameter with the result that while I can acces everything
> there and
> > still boot into Windows, I cannot resize it.
> >
> > It has about 110GB of win7 installation and data, plus about
> 130GB of
> > unused space. Much of the data is already backed up elswhere.
> >
> > So my plan is to backup the entire bootable Win7 partition onto an
> > external USB drive which already contains a backup of my Linux
> > operations, try reformatting the partition as Win32, then try
> shrinking
> > it by 100GB and re-installing the backup onto it. If successful then
> > I'll remove some of the data backups and shrink it some more. If
> needs
> > be, I could just scrub the entire disk, set up a Win32 partition
> of say
> > 150GB for the Win7 restoration, use the remainder of the disk
> for a new
> > Lubuntu14.04 installation and live happily ever after.
> >
> > So I have two main problems: (i) what (Lubuntu) package should I
> use to
> > backup the Win7 bootable partition that will allow me to restore
> it onto
> > a smaller clean partition? There was no recovery CD when I
> bought the
> > laptop... is it too late to make one from the recovery partition
> that it
> > came with, and if so how?
> > (ii) should I plan for having to erase and repartition the
> entire disk?
> >
> > Actually, I keep the Win7 partition merely so that every six
> months or
> > so I can have the pleasure of catching up with all the Window
> upgrades
> > (aka anti-virus measures) overnight; but I'm prepared to do
> this, and to
> > give over let's say 30GB of the HDU, in order to have A working
> Windows
> > boot partition Just In Case Wine doesn't help in a particular
> situation..
> >
> > Any advice, even comments, would be welcome.
> >
> > Basil
> >
> > Pretoria, South Africa
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 14 May 2014 21:37:25 +0200, James McCoy
> > <spaceknight2 at hotmail.com <mailto:spaceknight2 at hotmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > I been using Ubuntu (now running 13.10) for some time and
> know it
> > comes with backup software like Deja Dup already included. I
> just
> > started learning about Lubuntu 14.04 and plan to install it
> in my HP
> > 64 bit laptop and wonder does it also have built-in backup
> software
> > or do I need to install it?
> >
> > If I need to install backup software - does anyone have
> suggestions
> > for backup software for Lubuntu?
> >
> > Ubuntu has "Ubuntu Tweak" - is there similar software for
> Lubuntu? I
> > heard about "Lubuntu Tweak" but do not know anything about
> it. What
> > is it like? Will Ubuntu Tweak work on Lubuntu?
> >
> > Is there any kind of listings/directories of software and/or
> > applications for Lubuntu in particular? I know of websites
> "Appnr"
> > and "Linux App Finder" - but they have apps for Ubuntu in
> general. I
> > am looking for lightweight versions of Ubuntu apps (example -
> > lightweight version of firewall "Firestarter" or lightweight
> version
> > of video editing software Kino/Kdenlive).
> >
> > James
> > Indiana / USA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
> >
>
>
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