Lubuntu 14.10 and after

Andre Rodovalho andre.rodovalho at gmail.com
Sun May 11 19:50:24 UTC 2014


Plan is nice... And I want to join the Testing Team for the 14.04.1 and
14.10...

Any specif link for the first steps?


2014-05-11 17:31 GMT+00:00 Dale Visser <dale.visser at live.com>:

>  This seems like a very sensible plan, waiting until LXQt and Qt5 get to
> a level of stability. Perhaps we'll see LXQt in 15.04. :-)
>
> Sent from my Windows Phone
>  ------------------------------
> From: Julien Lavergne <gilir at ubuntu.com>
> Sent: ‎5/‎11/‎2014 11:11 AM
> To: lubuntu user list <lubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Lubuntu 14.10 and after
>
>  Hi,
>
> Time to start thinking about 14.10, and after. The future of LXDE
> (gtk2+ part) is uncertain, as only a few devs are currently improving
> the code (and the work is focused on the panel and the file manager)
> with an LTS behind us, we have the possibility to make massive changes
> without the fear of having support problem. However, migrate to Qt and
> LXQt for 14.10 seems too much optimistic :
>
> - LXQt is in alpha stage, and we are not even sure there will be no
> breakage in the future (see next point)
>
> - LXQt is Qt4, and it's migrating to Qt5. I don't think we should jump
> into the Qt4 version, if we are going to break things again when
> migrate to Qt5.
>
> - Pushing all LXQt into official repositories will take time. Without
> them, no real and official ISO testing will be possible. Usually, we
> have to set up this things for Alpha 1, to have time to make
> adjustments. For now, A1 is out of the target, even with Qt4 version
> of LXQt.
>
> - After the LXQt migration, we have to change most of our applications
> to have Qt ones. It needs time to discuss, compare, test and integrate
> them. We have to change 80 to 90 % of our seed …
>
> - Migrate from Gtk to Qt for the theming is not the easiest thing to
> do … We need time in this area too.
>
> For those reasons, I don't think migrate to Qt for 14.10 is a good
> idea. I'll propose this plan :
>
> - For 14.10, keep the gtk part and update packages only.
>
> - Preparing the choice of default Qt applications
>
> - Releasing testing ISOs with Qt packages (outside the official Ubuntu
> building system).
>
> - Work on Qt5 with LXQt people
>
> - Push LXQt Qt5 version into official repositories
>
> - Look at the state of LXQt + our default applications choices and
> make a decision after 14.10 release.
>
> Any comments on this ?
>
> Regarding 14.10, we need a release manager as both phillw and me are
> not going to be fully available for this (for different reasons). The
> release manager is in charge of delivering the final ISO, by doing
> mostly QA work, and coordinates the work of different people according
> to the schedule.
>
> If you want to participate in this area, please send phillw and me a
> mail with a description of what you will do as a release manager of
> Lubuntu (it's like a job interview, be convincing :-)) Also, it's not
> necessary a 1 people job, we may take several people for the help).
> It's also an important part of the release process of Lubuntu, that's
> why it's not open to everyone.
>
>
> Regarding the Qt migration, LXQt packages are already available in
> https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/+archive/lubuntu-daily You have to
> install lxqt-metapackage. They are build directly from git, so be
> prepared to various breakages. If you have problem using them, feel
> free to ask on the mailing list.
>
> Regarding the change of default applications, I'm preparing blueprints
> to discuss every topics, please don't create any extra topics until I
> finish the initial ones (I have aprox. 30 topics to set up …). You can
> monitor
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming/qt-migration
> for the progress. Please wait those blueprints before starting the
> flow of discussion on the audio player and the webbrowser ...
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Julien Lavergne
>
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