Lubuntu 14.04 Ignores User Color-Customization
Aere Greenway
Aere at Dvorak-Keyboards.com
Sun May 4 19:39:46 UTC 2014
Rafael:
It would be good to have all of the relevant information initially
within the bug-report.
I will wait to submit it until you report back on what you find out in
your additional tests.
I think you are saying that the customization wouldn't work in Lubuntu
even if I developed a custom theme (per Nio's suggestion).
- Aere
On 05/04/2014 05:55 AM, Rafael Laguna wrote:
> The problem here aren't the themes, is the XSettings daemon. Each
> environment has its own: XFCE has xfce4-settings-manager, Gnome has
> gnome-settings-daemon, etc.
>
> The package you're looking for is lxsession. LXDE has a standalone
> version of the daemon, called lxsession-daemon which loads independent
> config files. I need to do more tests to see if this is working.
>
> But I insist, this "bug" is not theme related.
>
>
> --
> Rafael Laguna
> Lubuntu Artwork Team
>
>
> 2014-05-04 5:11 GMT+02:00 Israel <israeldahl at gmail.com
> <mailto:israeldahl at gmail.com>>:
>
> On 05/03/2014 08:03 PM, Aere Greenway wrote:
>> On 05/03/2014 06:48 PM, Israel wrote:
>>> On 05/03/2014 07:26 PM, Aere Greenway wrote:
>>>> Rafael:
>>>>
>>>> I will report it as a bug. What package should it be reported
>>>> against?
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, it appears to be one more step down the Ubuntu
>>>> road of taking away customization. So I'm doubtful anything
>>>> will come of it. But it means a lot to me, so I will report
>>>> it, nevertheless.
>>>>
>>>> It may well be the end of color customization.
>>>>
>>>> - Aere
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 05/03/2014 05:33 PM, Rafael Laguna wrote:
>>>>> More clues. I've tested on a few environments.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Lubuntu does no colorize at all. Nor fgtk2 nor gtk3.
>>>>> 2. XFCE (using Shimmer's gtk-theme-config) DOES colorize only
>>>>> gtk2 (pretty normal, as usually gtk3 is not able to do this)
>>>>> 3. Mate. The same as XFCE, only colorizes gtk2 apps (I insist,
>>>>> gtk3 apps cannot be colorized as is, they need to be tweaked
>>>>> via .gtk-3.0 RC).
>>>>> 4. Ubuntu hasn't this feature anymore.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, as colorization works in every environment as eexpected,
>>>>> the problem is ours. But themes react fine in other desktops,
>>>>> so there's no problem at all on engines or themes RC files.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, once tested all steps, there's only one left: the LXDE
>>>>> session settings daemon. Shall we declare it as a bug?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Rafael Laguna
>>>>> Lubuntu Artwork Team
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2014-05-04 0:23 GMT+02:00 Rafael Laguna
>>>>> <rafaellaguna at ubuntu.com <mailto:rafaellaguna at ubuntu.com>>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I can't customize Lubuntu-default, experimental Box,
>>>>> or even Adwaita. Now I'm testing Xubuntu themes and they
>>>>> seem to be un-colorizable too. Something's happening to
>>>>> the Desktop Settings daemon. It's not theme or engine
>>>>> related. It also affects GTK3.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me try more tests on other environments and I hope to
>>>>> have an answer or, at least, a clue.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Rafael Laguna
>>>>> Lubuntu Artwork Team
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2014-05-03 22:37 GMT+02:00 Aere Greenway
>>>>> <Aere at dvorak-keyboards.com
>>>>> <mailto:Aere at dvorak-keyboards.com>>:
>>>>>
>>>>> All:
>>>>>
>>>>> I encountered a problem with Lubuntu 14.04 which (to
>>>>> me) is a show-stopper. I'm sure it isn't as important
>>>>> to others.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have my own peculiar style of customized colors.
>>>>> One of the main reasons my primary system uses
>>>>> Lubuntu is because of the color-customization, which
>>>>> retains the ease-of-use that was present in Ubuntu 11.04.
>>>>>
>>>>> I upgraded a Lubuntu 13.10 system for which the colors
>>>>> worked fine. After the upgrade to 14.04, the color
>>>>> customization does not appear in any windows I have
>>>>> tried (and I have tried a lot of them).
>>>>>
>>>>> Even in the window where you change the appearance
>>>>> with custom colors, it shows that it remembers the
>>>>> colors I specified, but the specified colors are not
>>>>> used in the window in which I specify them.
>>>>>
>>>>> It appears that color-customization can be done in the
>>>>> preferences settings, but the color customization you
>>>>> specify is universally ignored.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone have any idea of how to make
>>>>> color-customization work in Lubuntu 14.04?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> Aere
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> Aere
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Of course you can always make your own theme, so it will never
>>> be dead. I have made a few themes for the WM, and the panel is
>>> still customizable fortunately.
>>> @Aere, Rafael did say the bug was in lubuntu session settings
>>> daemon.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>> Israel:
>>
>> Is there something in the repository you install to build your
>> own theme? If so, what is the package name I should use (or
>> search-for)?
>>
>> Using Synaptic Package Manager, searching for 'lubuntu', I do not
>> see anything that resembles "lubuntu session settings daemon".
>> Do you know what the package name is for it?
>>
>> --
>> Sincerely,
>> Aere
> Aere, it depends on what kind of theme you are making. If you
> want the widgets (buttons, progress bars etc...) that is GTK,
> which I don't know a whole lot about.
> If you are talking about window borders, etc.. that is openbox.
> Openbox themes are simple xml files, that you can edit by hand (or
> programatically if you fancy).
>
> Before you go downloading Geany for some Openbox fun try out:
> http://box-look.org/
>
> You can also browse for GTK themes:
> http://xfce-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=100
> (If I remember Lubuntu might support GTK3 also... but I don't know
> for 100% sure off the top of my head)
>
> I hope this helps
>
>
> I think the package with the issue is related to the lxsession
> package.... but Rafael, or one of the developers may have a better
> idea what part is actually the problem.
>
> --
> Regards
>
>
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Aere
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