[Lubuntu-qa] Minimum and recommended RAM to install Lubuntu Trusty

[Ali Linx]

On 03/27/2014 10:42 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
> Hi again Ali,

Hi,

>
> I understand that you want the text as short as possible.

No. It is not 'me' who wants the short version. So many users will 
prefer that ;)

>   Other people
> want a longer paragraph to include a few more details.

That is why I suggested to create a sub page ;)

> I think the
> discussion should continue ...

Feel free but I have nothing more to share :)

>
> Best regards
> Nio

Good luck with this :)

>
> 2014-03-27 19:05, Ali Linx skrev:
>> On 03/27/2014 07:51 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
>>> Based on the feedback from several of you, I suggest the following text
>>> for the Lubuntu Wiki page paragraph 'System Requirements'
>>>
>>> -----
>>> text for the Lubuntu wiki page for Lubuntu 14.04 LTS
>>>
>>>
>>> System Requirements
>>>
>>> Lubuntu is a good operating system for many old computers, but not for
>>> all of them. Some computers have too little horsepower or memory. A rule
>>> of thumb is that the computer should not be more than 10 years old.
>>>
>>>
>>> Memory (RAM)
>>>
>>> If you plan to use advanced internet services like Google+, Youtube,
>>> Google Docs and Facebook, your computer needs at least 1 GB RAM, but
>>> 2 GB RAM makes the computer work better.
>>>
>>> If you plan to use local programs like Libre Office (for word
>>> processing,spreadsheet calculations and presentations) and Thunderbird
>>> for email, and seldom browse to web pages with a lot of graphics and
>>> animations, your computer needs 512 MB RAM, but 768 MB or 1 GB RAM makes
>>> it work significantly better.
>> Hi,
>>
>> Not trying here to force what I suggested previously but I highly
>> recommend to KISS and the above text will definitely defeat the KISS logic.
>>
>> You're making life much more complicated and at the same time, defeating
>> the 'lightweight' term in Lubuntu.
>>
>> 1-2GB RAM? that is what Ubuntu GNOME needs to work as fast as Lubuntu ;)
>>
>> IMHO, it is a mistake to get into details. The more you get into
>> details, the more limitation you put and more complications we add to
>> the situation.
>>
>> Our job is to explain the 'Recommended and/or the Minimum Requirements'.
>> It is for the users to decide what they will use their system for. If we
>> get into details, we shall need a long pages and then more feedback and
>> infinite loop of emails, etc. This is a HUGE waste of time.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Processor (CPU)
>>>
>>> The minimum specification for CPU is Pentium 4 or Pentium M or AMD K8.
>>> Older processors are too slow and AMD K7 has problems with flash video.
>>>
>>> VIA C7 might run with Xubuntu 12.04 LTS or Bento, Bodhi, LXLE.
>> If truth to be told, I'm against to mention names of systems that are
>> not from Ubuntu Family :)
>>
>>> Graphics chip / card
>>>
>>> Nvidia, AMD/ATI/Radeon and Intel work out of the box, or the system can
>>> be tweaked to work fairly easily. You can get help at the Ubuntu Forums.
>>> With such graphics, or if you don't know, try Lubuntu 14.04 LTS.
>>>
>>> SIS grahics should be run with flavours or re-spins of Ubuntu 12.04 LTS,
>>> for example Bento, Bodhi, LXLE.
>> Ubuntu family work on most of the cards so IMHO, no need to get into
>> details about this.
>>
>>>
>>> Installer
>>>
>>> The desktop installer works in most cases. If you have problems, for
>>> example with the graphics, try the alternate installer.
>>>
>>>
>>> Advanced methods
>>>
>>> If you have an older or less powerful system, and you are ready for
>>> advanced methods, read the tips at this page.
>>> -----
>>> (Suggestions for the wiki page 'Advanced methods' is not written yet)
>>>
>> If you guys are planning for detailed system requirements, that is
>> definitely a new separate Wiki Page :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Nio
>> I guess that is all what I have to share :)
>>
>>
>>> 2014-03-27 10:08, Nio Wiklund skrev:
>>>
>>>> Hi everybody,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The text we are discussing is like this now
>>>> -----
>>>> System Requirements
>>>>
>>>> We have done many tests and we've found out that Lubuntu can be
>>>> installed on a Pentium II or Celeron system with 128 MB of RAM, but such
>>>> a system would not perform well enough for daily use.
>>>>
>>>> With 256MB - 384MB of RAM, the performance will be better and the system
>>>> will be more usable.
>>>>
>>>> With 512MB of RAM, you don't need to worry much.
>>>>
>>>> The default "Desktop" installer requires 384-800 MB of RAM (depending on
>>>> selected options.) If you have problems, please use the "Alternate"
>>>> installer.
>>>> -----
>>>> and it is part of the web page
>>>>
>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
>>>>
>>>> which was last edited 2013-11-26 12:48:42 by dale-visser
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think we must change it.
>>>>
>>>> 1. Lubuntu Core Trusty works with 128 MB RAM, but not standard Lubuntu
>>>> Trusty. And Lubuntu Core needs at least 256 MB to work reasonably well,
>>>> but not for browsing bloated web pages. So it is mis-leading to state
>>>> that Lubuntu can be installed with 128 MB of RAM. It might be true for
>>>> some old version, but it is not true for Lubuntu Trusty.
>>>>
>>>> 2. With zRAM, the Lubuntu desktop installer does not need more than 384
>>>> MB RAM. Before zRAM was used, it might need 700-800 MB for some
>>>> complicated installations.
>>>>
>>>> 3. Let us consider if we should specify the amount of RAM necessary for
>>>> the alternate installer. I think it is better to specify it.
>>>>
>>>> 4. Let us consider if we should also display the alternatives OBI and 9w
>>>> to install Lubuntu Core, which is lighter than standard Lubuntu.
>>>> Remember that there are many old computers with 256 MB RAM!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>> Nio
>>>>
>>>>

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