"Hand of Thief Trojan targets all common Linux distributions"

John Hupp lubuntu at prpcompany.com
Fri Sep 6 20:00:22 UTC 2013

I'm glad that you have had fuller contact with his thinking and can 
confidently assert that he doesn't think that average desktop users need 
to install resident AV protection -- at least for the time being.  We're 
safe enough for now.

But it still leaves us with the future prospect of whether the Hand of 
Thief Trojan creator can make good on his plan to develop it into an 
effective tool for drive-by attacks.

On 9/6/2013 3:17 PM, David Yentzen wrote:
> Yes and no.  I have watched other vids that he has made in the past 
> addressing security concerns over Linux and exchanged correspondence 
> with him.  I think his overall evaluation is that while Linux is not 
> bulletproof( what is?) it is certainly the best in the field.  I think 
> I could safely summarize his view as this:  the normal, daily desktop 
> user of Linux does not need to run anti virus protection.  Perhaps if 
> you run a server of do other things then you need anti virus.  But 
> then again that is his( and my opinion) and each user should do what 
> he/she thinks is best.
> Best Regards,
> David Yentzen
> https://launchpad.net/~dbyentzen <https://launchpad.net/%7Edbyentzen>
> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 2:08 PM, John Hupp <lubuntu at prpcompany.com 
> <mailto:lubuntu at prpcompany.com>> wrote:
>     Actually, though his conclusion is that the Hand of Thief Trojan
>     threat is blown way out of proportion, he speaks as if Linux is
>     already subject to many threats that are much more serious than
>     the Hand of Thief.
>     In other words, he seems to contradict the comforting analysis
>     given here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Linuxvirus (on
>     account of which I, and probably many other 'buntu users, are not
>     running resident anti-virus protection).
>     If he's right, we should not be reassured but alarmed (though not
>     by the Hand of Thief at the moment).
>     On 9/6/2013 2:38 PM, David Yentzen wrote:
>>     You may want to check out this youtube video about the "Hand of
>>     Thief Trojan".  This vlogger(Quidsup) seems to have his head
>>     wrapped around it pretty good.
>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-7PhF-7qEA
>>     Best Regards,
>>     David Yentzen
>>     https://launchpad.net/~dbyentzen <https://launchpad.net/%7Edbyentzen>
>>     On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 1:26 PM, John Hupp <lubuntu at prpcompany.com
>>     <mailto:lubuntu at prpcompany.com>> wrote:
>>         I understand that with a standard Ubuntu/Lubuntu installation
>>         not running Wine, it is believed that there are no active
>>         threats that would responsibly require resident anti-virus
>>         protection.
>>         That may still be true today, but perhaps it won't be for too
>>         much longer.  See the last 3 paragraphs of this article:
>>         http://www.crn.com/news/security/240160712/security-firms-warn-of-potential-banking-trojan-attacks.htm?cid=nl_sec
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