[Lubuntu-wiki-docs] [Lubuntu Community] Cleaning up Routine & Activities

Ali Linx (amjjawad) amjjawad at gmail.com
Mon Nov 11 11:06:47 UTC 2013

On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 6:28 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjjawad at gmail.com>wrote:
>>  On 11/06/2013 07:55 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
>>>    Hi,
>>>  Kindly have a read at:
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre
>>>  I have updated this Wiki Page with some new information which a bit
>>> more in details than here:
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved#Lubuntu_Community
>>>  Myself and some 'active' members of Lubuntu have discussed lately about
>>> the activities of the team in general. We have noticed there are some
>>> people who remain silent for months without any notice and then show up
>>> suddenly then disappear again. We noticed that the list of members need to
>>> be cleaned up so the Team Leaders of Lubuntu know at least who is
>>> contributing and ask them for help and who is not. We have noticed that the
>>> overall activities have been much less and while this could be normal in
>>> regular releases at this stage, it is NOT for this cycle - why? simply
>>> because Lubuntu 14.04 is going to be an LTS Release and that requires lots
>>> of 'TEAM' work and I insist, TEAM WORK.
>>>  Also, we *(active members of the team) *came to understand that
>>> previously, some tasks/roles were being handled by only 1-2 people if not
>>> only one. This has proved to add unbelievable stress and huge burden over
>>> the shoulder of those people. And, in most times, when they were in need to
>>> help and support, they got very little bit of it. THIS must NOT be the case
>>> in this cycle. And, I am sorry to be extra honest here but I will simply
>>> leave Lubuntu once and for all if I will continue to feel that this is a
>>> few people job rather than a Community and Team work.
>>>  Team work = "We must all have a great sense of responsibility and not
>>> let things happen because everyone takes the comfortable view that someone
>>> else is looking after it. Someone else isn't looking after it."
>>>    Lubuntu needs you for the coming 6 months and even after releasing
>>> Lubuntu 14.04 LTS, whether it will be supported for 2 years or more Lubuntu
>>> will still need you. Please, don't let Lubuntu down!
>>>  You may wonder what is the big deal behind all that but for myself and
>>> some other members, this is called Loyalty and being in love with Lubuntu
>>> which will make you dedicate some of your own time to do things and most of
>>> the time, do more than what you are supposed to do. Lubuntu has a special
>>> magic that not only can breathe new life into an old semi-dead machine but
>>> can take you far away and open your mind and change your life.
>>>  Before the Real Hard and Tough Work starts for 14.04, it is a very
>>> good time to discuss such issues before 'active' people get busy with
>>> testing, bugs, etc and won't have time to stuff like that :)
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre
>>>  Hopefully, we can get this list updated soon!
>>>  Because, we do need to know who is contributing and participating and
>>> who is not. At least, for our information and I see nothing wrong with that
>>> :)
>>> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming/+spec/team-activity
>>>  Thank you!
>>>  --
>>>   Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>>> Best Regards,
>>>  amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
>>>  Areas of Involvement<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/AreasOfInvolvement>
>>>  My Projects <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Projects>
>>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Aere Greenway <Aere at dvorak-keyboards.com
>>> > wrote:
>>> Ali:
>>> As I indicated in my last reply to you, at present, I am very busy, and
>>> only contribute occasionally.
>>> If the criteria for being on this list as being able to put in more
>>> time, then by all means, feel free to remove me from this e-mail list.
>>> - Aere
>>> --
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Aere
>>>  Hi Aere,
>> I am sorry if my email wasn't clear for you. Allow me to explain in easy,
>> simple and clear way :)
>> 1- I am afraid you are confused between the mailing list as a way to
>> communicate with everyone and being active as a contributor :)  I am sure I
>> have explained that to you months ago but I'd be glad to explain that
>> again. I am sure I was extra clear about the two groups that our community
>> consists of: Users and Contributors. For Users, they are not required to be
>> active. For Contributors, they 'are required' to be active :)
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre#Lubuntu_Community
>> 2- NO ONE will remove ANYONE. This is a Mailing List for everyone and as
>> long as we are following these guidelines:
>> http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailing-lists - then everything
>> is fine. No one is going to remove you, Aere :)
>> 3- This is a usual routine we do from time to time. What is special this
>> time is we will go for an LTS release and we do need to re-evaluate
>> everything to avoid the previous mistakes and adopt the best approach to
>> not only have a rock solid system but a strong team that is capable of
>> whatever task/challenge it may have of face :)
>> I hope this is clear and if not, please let me know and I will be very
>> glad to re-explain.
>> If you think you are busy then for sure, you can simply add your name
>> here:
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre#Lubuntu_Users
>> Before, we had only a list of actual members and active contributors but
>> now, Users can also add their names :)
>> Thank you!
>> @Phill, Lars and others who updated their entries: THANK YOU SO MUCH :D
>> Have a great time everyone!
>> --
>>  On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 4:41 AM, Sergio Meneses <
>> sergioandresmeneses at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I am agree!
>> Sergio Meneses
>> Linux User: #478743
>> Ubuntu User: #24056
Hi Sergio,

I am glad you agree. It breaks my heart to see only few are still active
and it makes ms sad a lot to see this community has a problem that should
be addressed and fixed: Lack Of Communications!

I am sorry, I don't feel that we are working as a team anymore.

Thank you for everyone who is active and for those who are trying to be
active. Someone needs to start recruiting more contributors IMHO. I wish I
could do that but for two reasons, I will not.
1- I am so busy with Ubuntu GNOME Team (
2- I am no longer interested to do a lot alone all by myself.

Lubuntu is a community and there should be a team work.

I do know who is active. They are a huge support. They are helping me and
helping this community to remain active and move forward. But, they are
few. They know who they are, I don't need to mention names :) THANK YOU for
your support.

I will be around if you guys need me!

Good Luck :)

Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
Best Regards,
amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
Areas of Involvement <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/AreasOfInvolvement>
My Projects <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Projects>
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