Installing 13.10 on older laptop PIII 1.14 GHz, 512 MB RAM

Andre Rodovalho andre.rodovalho at gmail.com
Tue Jul 23 02:44:48 UTC 2013


floppy? I prefer using CDs, Hirens Boots CD has PLOP Boot Manager:
http://www.hirensbootcd.org/download/


2013/7/22 Richie Bloss <sneydblois at gmail.com>

> Hi, currently on 12.04 & just discovered it's not LTS (like Ubuntu), so
> might as well go with Saucy.
>
> I just got the Bluetooth (Bluez) devices working, the laptop entering
> sleep mode when closing lid & WiFi working.  So why not install 13.10 & do
> it all over again.
>
>
> Last year I was unsuccessful installing 12.04 from CD, the install froze
> each & every time. Remember trying several of the options: acpi=off, noapic,
> etc. Do not remember everything I tried but really had no idea what i was
> doing anyway - still don't :).  Did create a thread on the Ubuntu forums
> but can't get to it right now, forums down.
>
> 11.10 installs just fine.  I only have a CD drive & the machine does not
> support boot from USB.
>
>
> Here is an email, I saved, from the Lubuntu mailing list a while back:
>
> ***************************************************************************
> * We need to run Saucy installs on as much hardware as possible as I
> >     > believe there is more to this than just RAM size. I suspect some
> >     old CD
> >     > drives aren't really up to it. I know the one in this machine is
> >     > somewhat erratic.
> >
> >     Therefore we need to recommend the usage of usb live sticks.
> >     CD-ROM/DVD-ROM
> >     drives tend to fail and also cd/dvd-writers tend to write cd-rs with
> >     to much
> >     errors.
> >
> >
> > Hello Leszek,
> >
> > You may forgot that some old machines don't really have USB Ports. If
> > these have, the machine doesn't boot from that USB and not everyone
> > knows about PLOP, and yes, we are talking about the new and beginners
> users.
> >
> > I do agree that LiveUSB makes a lot of difference indeed as far as I've
> > seen for the last 2 years for so many tests I have personally done.
> > However, the classic and the standard approach, IMHO, shall be the
> LiveCD.*
> **
> **
> * the BIG change with Saucy is the recent inclusion of ZRam, it is for
> > this reason we are re-testing "how low can it go" :)*
> **************************************************************************
>
>
> Plop sounds interesting.  I do have a floppy drive that has barely been
> used.  Could I create a floppy disk image (plpbt.img?) & boot from that?
>  Do I have enough floppy's?
>
> Before I begin thought perhaps I might post here & ask for suggestions
> regarding the best way to get the 13.10 install going on an old P3 that has
> only CD & will not boot from USB?
>
> Some months back on the Lubuntu Facebook group someone (Phill I
> think) suggested an alternate method for installing Lubuntu with a feature
> at that time unsupported by Lubuntu.  This was for machines that had
> trouble with normal installs from LiveCD.
>
> What about the Minimal Install even tho I see that's applies to PC's with
> 1/4 the RAM?  Would that make my PC even faster?
>
>
> On another note:
> Have been setting swappiness value to 10 which helps - not completely sure
> how zRAM & swappiness differ.  Low values of swappiness avoid swapping
> memory to the swap partition as much as possible whereas zRAM creates a
> compressed swap partition in RAM, does that sound right?
> zRAM appears to make the old P3 faster than swappiness.
> Would there be further benefit setting swappiness down to 10 (or 0) with
> zRAM installed?
> Came across a confusing askubuntu thread thread suggesting:
> *zRam is useful for people using computers with 1GB or 2GB RAM. Since
> zRam is compressing data, it require some processor resources. Not much,
> but always. For that reason i do not recommend to use it with old processors
> *.
> That seems contradictory to the stated objective for zRAM in 13.10.
>
>
> Sorry if this is too many questions. [?]
>
> thanks
>
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