Lubuntu alternative sessions script

Mon Jul 8 03:51:05 UTC 2013

Yeah, if the only thing this dock does is offering launcher, lxpanel does
better... Lxpanel does not have the bouncing effect, but has a opacity
config that looks like the "fake transparency" when overlaying a window...

It's quite ugly when overlapping windows, but when used as a fixed panel,
no problem at all!

2013/7/7 Federico Leoni <effelle at gmail.com>

> Nope Andre,
>
> opacity is available just with a composite manager, same for bouncing
> effect. Anyway is really a "Stupidly Simple" dock: doesn't have applets,
> just launcher...
>
> Let me see what I can do to blend it more deeply with our DE...
>
> F.
> Em 07/07/2013 14:54, "Andre Rodovalho" <andre.rodovalho at gmail.com>
> escreveu:
>
>  Pretty cool in my opinion, Federico! I guess that blended so nice with
>> Lubuntu default theme... There is not an option to set opacity?
>>
>> I guess we must try some, and figure it out which of them has the best
>> cost benefit. I can help you with some basic tests...
>>
>> And about the adoption, it dosen't have to be an official package, there
>> is space for that. It's a good idea, many users, even those who migrated
>> from XP are looking for an different expirience...
>>
>>
>> 2013/7/7 Federico Leoni <effelle at gmail.com>
>>
>>> Ok folks,
>>>
>>> I'm playing a bit with others docks to see if a can recreate a good OSX
>>> environment without composite manager.
>>> I have tested Docky, Simdock and Plank. I think the last one should be
>>> the better choice because Is simple to configure via conf  files, even
>>> without composite is usable and has a minimum impact, 15 mb  more-less. Add
>>> launcher is quite easy too.
>>> Not have a CM means we will not have shadows or transparencies but the
>>> system will be more snappy. Note that the CPU usage is not 35% as in the
>>> screenshot but just 3%. Bad timing!
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>> F.
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/effenobrazil/with/9232040820/lightbox/
>>> Em 07/07/2013 11:39, "Federico Leoni" <effelle at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>
>>>> Ok folks,
>>>> I'm playing a bit with others docks to see if a can recreate a good
>>>> OSX environment without composite manager.
>>>> I have tested Docky, Simdock and Plank. The last one I think would be
>>>> the better choice. Is simple to configure via conf  files and even
>>>> without composite is usable and has a minimum impact, 15 mb  more
>>>> less. Add launcher is quite easy too.
>>>> Not have a CM means we will not have shadows or transparencies but the
>>>> system will be more snappy.
>>>>
>>>> F.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/7/5 Andre Rodovalho <andre.rodovalho at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>> > Script worked quite nice, but cairo-dock don't like my notebook
>>>> specs... It
>>>> > was complaining about OpenGL, and I had to set up some "fake
>>>> transparency
>>>> > thing"
>>>> >
>>>> > Another thing, Compton on my 13.04 is not stable too. Sometimes it
>>>> breaks
>>>> > manu-cache, and the "start" menu gets hidden (I use the panel on the
>>>> left).
>>>> > The transparency and shadows sometimes goes to lxpanel too... My
>>>> configs for
>>>> > that matter are: "compton -i 0.6 -e 0.6 -f -I 0.065 -O 0.065 -D 6 -m
>>>> 0.9  -G
>>>> > -b"
>>>> >
>>>> > Some SS to clarify
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > 2013/7/5 Julien Lavergne <gilir at ubuntu.com>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 2013/7/5 Leszek Lesner <leszek.lesner at web.de>:
>>>> >> > Am Donnerstag, 4. Juli 2013, 21:50:26 schrieb Federico Leoni:
>>>> >> >> @Julien Lavergne: You right, a package would be a better choice,
>>>> but
>>>> >> >> I'm afraid for now I can offer just a dirty worked script. I'm
>>>> doing
>>>> >> >> this on my spare time, so give me the time to learn how to do
>>>> better
>>>> >> >> things like packages. Then for now I'll continue to create
>>>> sessions
>>>> >> >> using my script as a base, if you let me. :)
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > I created a experimental package based on the lxsession changes in
>>>> 13.10
>>>> >> > (current bzr tree which is btw. very amazing. Well done Julien and
>>>> all
>>>> >> > the
>>>> >> > other devs working on lxsession)
>>>> >> > combined with the ideas in the script.
>>>> >> > It can be tested on the 13.10 alphas / dailies.
>>>> >> So, you did exactly what I had in mind :-) I happy to see that other
>>>> >> people are able to use it without many explanations :-)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> > The only small change I did to the script is not depending and
>>>> >> > defaulting to
>>>> >> > the faenza icon theme. Its a very big theme here and I don't think
>>>> it
>>>> >> > makes
>>>> >> > sense depending on it when we already have a very good looking one.
>>>> >> > For the gtk theme like in the script I used clearlooks but I would
>>>> >> > rather also
>>>> >> > stick to the default here as clearlooks does not provide a gtk3
>>>> theme
>>>> >> > (so gtk3
>>>> >> > apps look ugly).
>>>> >> > As for Cairo Dock I guess it needs a special configuration as it
>>>> also
>>>> >> > creates a
>>>> >> > virtual workspace switcher in the bottom left by default. Maybe you
>>>> >> > could
>>>> >> > create a better config for me to integrate it in this session
>>>> package.
>>>> >> > I also think the openbox configuration should be changed so the
>>>> close
>>>> >> > maximize
>>>> >> > and minimize are on the left.
>>>> >> If it's a text based configuration file, it can be added to lxsession
>>>> >> conffiles mechanism. I just need the location of the configuration
>>>> >> file in home directory.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> > @Julien:
>>>> >> > I already shipped a custom config for openbox for positioning the
>>>> close,
>>>> >> > maximize and minimize buttons on the left, however openbox does
>>>> not seem
>>>> >> > to
>>>> >> > load this. I guess the /usr/bin/openbox-lubuntu script has still
>>>> the
>>>> >> > lubuntu
>>>> >> > profile hardcoded. Also I am little bit confused about the
>>>> >> > openbox-custom
>>>> >> > parameter in the desktop.conf file as it seems to search for a
>>>> script.
>>>> >> In desktop.conf, you still using the Lubuntu session for openbox. So,
>>>> >> it will load the Lubuntu configuration file.
>>>> >> To do what you want, you have to use openbox-custom as windows
>>>> >> manager, and put the path of your configuration file into session.
>>>> >> That's probably not so obvious, so I probably need to make it easier.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> > Here is my little testing ppa:
>>>> >> > https://launchpad.net/~leszek-lesner/+archive/testing-stuff
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Just as a reference. As it uses the changes of the current bzr
>>>> lxsession
>>>> >> > it
>>>> >> > won't run with stock 13.04s lxsession I suppose (I did not test
>>>> yet but
>>>> >> > I
>>>> >> > highly doubt it)
>>>> >> I confirm this. You should at least use the Lubuntu daily PPA if you
>>>> >> want to use it on something different that 13.10.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Regards,
>>>> >> Julien Lavergne
>>>> >>
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