Lubuntu alternative sessions script
Andre Rodovalho
andre.rodovalho at gmail.com
Sun Jul 7 17:53:56 UTC 2013
Pretty cool in my opinion, Federico! I guess that blended so nice with
Lubuntu default theme... There is not an option to set opacity?
I guess we must try some, and figure it out which of them has the best cost
benefit. I can help you with some basic tests...
And about the adoption, it dosen't have to be an official package, there is
space for that. It's a good idea, many users, even those who migrated from
XP are looking for an different expirience...
2013/7/7 Federico Leoni <effelle at gmail.com>
> Ok folks,
>
> I'm playing a bit with others docks to see if a can recreate a good OSX
> environment without composite manager.
> I have tested Docky, Simdock and Plank. I think the last one should be the
> better choice because Is simple to configure via conf files, even without
> composite is usable and has a minimum impact, 15 mb more-less. Add
> launcher is quite easy too.
> Not have a CM means we will not have shadows or transparencies but the
> system will be more snappy. Note that the CPU usage is not 35% as in the
> screenshot but just 3%. Bad timing!
>
> What do you think?
>
> F.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/effenobrazil/with/9232040820/lightbox/
> Em 07/07/2013 11:39, "Federico Leoni" <effelle at gmail.com> escreveu:
>
>> Ok folks,
>> I'm playing a bit with others docks to see if a can recreate a good
>> OSX environment without composite manager.
>> I have tested Docky, Simdock and Plank. The last one I think would be
>> the better choice. Is simple to configure via conf files and even
>> without composite is usable and has a minimum impact, 15 mb more
>> less. Add launcher is quite easy too.
>> Not have a CM means we will not have shadows or transparencies but the
>> system will be more snappy.
>>
>> F.
>>
>>
>> 2013/7/5 Andre Rodovalho <andre.rodovalho at gmail.com>:
>>
>> > Script worked quite nice, but cairo-dock don't like my notebook
>> specs... It
>> > was complaining about OpenGL, and I had to set up some "fake
>> transparency
>> > thing"
>> >
>> > Another thing, Compton on my 13.04 is not stable too. Sometimes it
>> breaks
>> > manu-cache, and the "start" menu gets hidden (I use the panel on the
>> left).
>> > The transparency and shadows sometimes goes to lxpanel too... My
>> configs for
>> > that matter are: "compton -i 0.6 -e 0.6 -f -I 0.065 -O 0.065 -D 6 -m
>> 0.9 -G
>> > -b"
>> >
>> > Some SS to clarify
>> >
>> >
>> > 2013/7/5 Julien Lavergne <gilir at ubuntu.com>
>> >>
>> >> 2013/7/5 Leszek Lesner <leszek.lesner at web.de>:
>> >> > Am Donnerstag, 4. Juli 2013, 21:50:26 schrieb Federico Leoni:
>> >> >> @Julien Lavergne: You right, a package would be a better choice, but
>> >> >> I'm afraid for now I can offer just a dirty worked script. I'm doing
>> >> >> this on my spare time, so give me the time to learn how to do better
>> >> >> things like packages. Then for now I'll continue to create sessions
>> >> >> using my script as a base, if you let me. :)
>> >> >
>> >> > I created a experimental package based on the lxsession changes in
>> 13.10
>> >> > (current bzr tree which is btw. very amazing. Well done Julien and
>> all
>> >> > the
>> >> > other devs working on lxsession)
>> >> > combined with the ideas in the script.
>> >> > It can be tested on the 13.10 alphas / dailies.
>> >> So, you did exactly what I had in mind :-) I happy to see that other
>> >> people are able to use it without many explanations :-)
>> >>
>> >> > The only small change I did to the script is not depending and
>> >> > defaulting to
>> >> > the faenza icon theme. Its a very big theme here and I don't think it
>> >> > makes
>> >> > sense depending on it when we already have a very good looking one.
>> >> > For the gtk theme like in the script I used clearlooks but I would
>> >> > rather also
>> >> > stick to the default here as clearlooks does not provide a gtk3 theme
>> >> > (so gtk3
>> >> > apps look ugly).
>> >> > As for Cairo Dock I guess it needs a special configuration as it also
>> >> > creates a
>> >> > virtual workspace switcher in the bottom left by default. Maybe you
>> >> > could
>> >> > create a better config for me to integrate it in this session
>> package.
>> >> > I also think the openbox configuration should be changed so the close
>> >> > maximize
>> >> > and minimize are on the left.
>> >> If it's a text based configuration file, it can be added to lxsession
>> >> conffiles mechanism. I just need the location of the configuration
>> >> file in home directory.
>> >>
>> >> > @Julien:
>> >> > I already shipped a custom config for openbox for positioning the
>> close,
>> >> > maximize and minimize buttons on the left, however openbox does not
>> seem
>> >> > to
>> >> > load this. I guess the /usr/bin/openbox-lubuntu script has still the
>> >> > lubuntu
>> >> > profile hardcoded. Also I am little bit confused about the
>> >> > openbox-custom
>> >> > parameter in the desktop.conf file as it seems to search for a
>> script.
>> >> In desktop.conf, you still using the Lubuntu session for openbox. So,
>> >> it will load the Lubuntu configuration file.
>> >> To do what you want, you have to use openbox-custom as windows
>> >> manager, and put the path of your configuration file into session.
>> >> That's probably not so obvious, so I probably need to make it easier.
>> >>
>> >> > Here is my little testing ppa:
>> >> > https://launchpad.net/~leszek-lesner/+archive/testing-stuff
>> >> >
>> >> > Just as a reference. As it uses the changes of the current bzr
>> lxsession
>> >> > it
>> >> > won't run with stock 13.04s lxsession I suppose (I did not test yet
>> but
>> >> > I
>> >> > highly doubt it)
>> >> I confirm this. You should at least use the Lubuntu daily PPA if you
>> >> want to use it on something different that 13.10.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Julien Lavergne
>> >>
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