Lubuntu alternative sessions script

Federico Leoni effelle at gmail.com
Fri Jul 5 16:40:41 UTC 2013


Ali,

I completely agree with you and Ronnie, we don't need to change the
custom interface of Lubuntu, I prefer continue talking about offering
alternatives. But please, let me explain why I think is a good idea
have an additional "XP skin" using an example: I have a customer,
female 60yo. She has an old PentiumD with 1 GB ram and XP. She use the
PC mainly for Internet, email (using a browser) and Facebook. Sometime
she like to listen music and use an old version of Openoffice. Migrate
could be easy and to begin I proposed a dual boot XP/Lubuntu 12.04
LTS. After a couple of weeks she starts using more deeply Lubuntu but
she always back to XP to do something, like write a CD. Why? Because
after many years she was used to choose things on screen based on
colors and shape. Trust me, we are not speaking about a monkey, she is
a smart woman.
After a further customization of the interface (icons and windows
borders primarily) she switch completely to Lubuntu. In this way I
have helped one more person to migrate, that's for me is an happy
ending, and everybody here loves happy endings. :)

This category of people is perhaps just 1% of the potential users, but
they exist and need all the help we can offer because sometimes
teaching is not enough.

Yust my 2c.

F.


Em 05/07/2013 07:24, "Ali Linx (amjjawad)" <amjjawad at gmail.com> escreveu:
>
> I do agree with each and every word Ronnie wrote.
> WE DO HAVE an XP like desktop so we do NOT need anything else, IMHO :) but that is only me and Ronnie so far who are saying this. YMMV.
>
> As for the Trash on the Desktop, well, that request has been made long time ago on the mailing list but I'm sorry to say, no one took it seriously and now, I guess we have to. Because, discussions on the mailing lists could be lost, this is something that can not be lost: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/1072108
>
> I do have a different opinion about the 'skin' or exactly XP Desktop like for Lubuntu.
> IMHO, this is NOT good idea. What is the point to shout proudly and loudly that "Hey XP User, we have something new, with this and that, etc etc ... but guess what? you will have the same skin/theme of XP".
> Then, IMHO, this is NOT new. Let the user choose the theme he/she likes. Do not give him a clone of the 'OLD' dead system. Again, that is my opinion and YMMV :)
>
> HOWEVER, if someone wants to build a package, a theme, an PPA, whatever you call it that will provide the same skin for XP, and offer that for the users, I see no harm. BUT PLEASE, DO NOT change the current look of Lubuntu JUST because Windows XP Users :)
>
> We should NOT forget that Lubuntu is NOT only for Windows XP Users. So many Linux Users are using it. I imagine they will dislike the new look.
>
> I know, NO ONE said we will go and change ... totally understand .. hey, I'm just saying and sharing my opinion, just in case :)
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 6:48 AM, Phill Whiteside <PhillW at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>
>> I've put a request in to have the availability of a functioning trash can on the desktop. As to if it will happen? Pass.
>>
>> Having just had screams (and lots of them) from changing a computer system from XP to Win 8, you are quite correct... XP users have used it for over a decade. If we can make it less painful for them to adopt lubuntu then I do think it is a worthwhile excersise. No computers will be harmed during the trials :) The ability to take a 'skin' of another OS has been around for a long time.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Phill.
>>
>> On 5 July 2013 03:26, Mr Wislr <mrwislr at riseup.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Perhaps it would make more sense to concentrate on a mac variant.
>>>
>>> My reasons:
>>>
>>> Lubuntu's paradigm is already virtually an xp clone.
>>> Outside of different icons and theme color, there isn't much difference.
>>>
>>> If wanting to totally mimic an XP desktop because those users are picky
>>> an expect certain 'looks' and placement of things then they will expect
>>> a working desktop trash can that you can drag and drop to and empty.
>>> Currently LXDE does have trash but not as expected on the desktop.
>>>
>>> A mac interface on the other hand does have functional differences and
>>> ways of doing things, which would warrant the attention of the script
>>> to help those users. But as for an XP like interface, its my opinion
>>> that how the LXDE interface was born any how, based on XP.
>>>
>>> Menus, task switching, notification, clock and calendar are in the
>>> expect position, windowing functions virtually the same. So in other
>>> words what would really change with XP variant?
>>>
>>> Mac I get it, XP, we already have it.
>>>
>>> --Ronnie
>>
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