Problem installing from alternate CD

Phill Whiteside PhillW at
Thu Feb 7 17:36:19 UTC 2013


The previous releases of lubuntu are listed here[1]. With regard to no LTS
for Lubuntu, this is for lubuntu specific things (e.g. those that start
lx). The kernel and browsers, for example, are updated by 'main' ubuntu and
a lubuntu system will receive them normally. (This also explains why some
people state that they are running lubuntu 12.04.1, the point release is by
'main' ubuntu).

I haven't got any i386 images on my system, but will get the 12.10
alternate this evening.

There is, each release, a discussion of which is the best browser to be
included on lubuntu. It has to be a browser that is fully supported via the
automatic updates as we have not the resources to attempt such an
undertaking. For very low RAM systems, it is mentioned that people may want
to consider xombrero (used to be called xxxterm)[2]. Others choose Midori,
you are welcome to try various browsers out until you find the one that you
find works best for you. There is often a lively debate going on about
browsers on the lubuntu face book page [3] (it keeps the mailing list less
cluttered when there is not a possibility of changing the browser for a



On 7 February 2013 17:04, Aere Greenway <Aere at> wrote:

> On 02/07/2013 08:44 AM, Barry Titterton wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> This is my first post on the Lubuntu mailing list. I have been using
>> Ubuntu for three years but this is my first experience of Lubuntu, and it
>> didn't go very well.
>> I used to attend a computer club in Derbyshire and had been evangelising
>> Linux in general and Ubuntu in particular for over a year. A couple of
>> weeks ago a club member asked me to help him install Linux on an elderly
>> laptop. The machine in question is a Toshiba S2410-504 with only 256Mb of
>> RAM. I decided that this was a good candidate for Lubuntu, and the low RAM
>> suggested that I needed the Alternate Install CD. The install went well
>> until the very last item when it failed to install GRUB, after this the
>> laptop would not boot. I spent several hours trying, and failing, to fix
>> this manually. Most of the proposed solutions for a failed GRUB install
>> referred to a dual boot situation or required running a live CD but this
>> machine really struggled to run the live CD. I did manage to run GParted
>> which suggested that the partitioning of the disk was faulty. I had chosen
>> the default partitioning option of "Guided. Use whole of the disk.",
>> however GParted showed that the partition 'sda' didn't have a mount point
>> (should have been '/') and was not flagged as being bootable. I therefore
>> repeated the installation but chose a different partition option "Guided.
>> Use whole of the disk with LVM". This time the installer gave me feedback
>> screens which confirmed what partitions would be created and their size and
>> mount points. This feed back was missing from the first install attempt.
>> The rest of the install went smoothly, GRUB included, and the laptop booted
>> into Lubuntu.
>> Does anyone have experience with the Alternate CD?
>> Is this unusual behaviour for the Alternate CD?
>> Does it need reporting as a bug with the installer?
>> This whole episode was rather embarrassing as it happened in front of a
>> potential convert to Linux. It could get even more embarrassing as he
>> intends to report back to the club members with an account of the
>> installation attempt. As a small apology to him I have also invested a few
>> pounds in more RAM boosting it from 256 to 768Mb, which has made a big
>> improvement in the performance.
>> I have two more points to make about my first encounter with Lubuntu:
>> Firstly the Alternate CD comes with Chromium as the default browser,
>> however my experience showed that Chromium would not work reliably on a
>> machine with only 256Mb of RAM. Should the Alternate CD build have a
>> lighter weight browser as its default?
>> Secondly Lubuntu has the touchpad 'tap to select' feature turned on as
>> the default. I could turn this off after installing the software but it
>> made using the live CD very difficult indeed: it was so sensitive that,
>> unless I was very gentle, when I tried to scroll the curser I would
>> unintentionally selected something.
>> Both of the above points are merely annoying to an experienced Ubuntu
>> user but they could make a bad impression with a brand new user.
>> Cheers,
>> Barry T.
>>  All:
> My comments on this are addressing only a part of the situation.
> When I originally started using Lubuntu, it was level 11.10, which I was
> delighted to find, would run well on only 256 megabytes of RAM!
> My elation with this was somewhat dampened, when I discovered that the new
> 12.04 level wouldn't run very well on only 256 megabytes of RAM.  It still
> works well with 384 megabytes of RAM (though you have to use the alternate
> install).
> Given my most common usage of my computers being MIDI audio production,
> and needing to use quality soundfonts (FluidR3_GM.sf2 is 142 megabytes in
> size), I have grudgingly upgraded all of my machines to a minimum of 512
> megabytes of RAM.
> Of course, I still have to use the alternate install, though I have
> successfully installed it (with 512 megabytes of RAM) from the live CD
> desktop by (before starting the install), using Synaptic Package Manager to
> remove the "ubiquity-slideshow-*" (the asterisk denotes the particular
> ubuntu 'flavor') package.
> 512 Megabytes of RAM used to be the 'gold-standard' for all of the Ubuntu
> variants, but that, alas, is no longer the case.  And I realize there is
> little Lubuntu can do to shield us from the ever-increasing memory
> requirements of the Linux kernel.
> --
> Sincerely,
> Aere
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