iTunes on Ubuntu and all its official variants

Andre Rodovalho andre.rodovalho at gmail.com
Fri Dec 20 16:45:14 UTC 2013


The problem is to make hardware to work on Linux, as already said here...
Apple sure does this intentionally, and that sucks!

I recommend to migrate to an Android too, every change is a pain, but...
this is for the good!

Android own more than 70% of the world's market. I know this is different
in US. But Android is also increasing on this market...


2013/12/20 Israel <israeldahl at gmail.com>

> On 12/20/2013 09:11 AM, John Hupp wrote:
> > On 12/20/2013 2:00 AM, Eric Bradshaw wrote:
> >> Ali, I feel for you. I managed to switch my whole family to *buntu
> >> from Apple Macs, but my wife was by far the hardest to convince. I
> >> ended up setting up Ubuntu for her like a Mac - with launcher(s),
> >> menu placement, etc. that mimicked the Mac OS "look and feel" - which
> >> is what it's all about. She's hooked on the Mac experience and that
> >> experience comes through with many of Apple's core Apps (I don't know
> >> if the names have changed now, but) like iPhoto, iWork, iLife, etc.
> >>
> >> My wife doesn't give a hoot about the underlying technology and
> >> doesn't really understand what an MP3 is (much less an AAC file).
> >> I've tried Banshee, VLC and several other media players on her own
> >> computer, but she won't use them. She still takes photos, but has me
> >> make copies, or changes, or prints because no matter what I put on
> >> her computer, it doesn't work (look and feel) like iPhoto did. I can
> >> make CDs of MP3s for her to play in any computer or DVD player in the
> >> house, the car, etc. But, she'll still use her iPhone to listen to
> >> music because it runs in iTunes.
> >>
> >> I used nothing but Mac in my home for many years, so I understand the
> >> appeal. I also understand the frustration of trying to use *buntu
> >> software with an iPod, iPad, iPhone, iTunes in general to appease my
> >> wife. I've convinced myself (though have no proof) Apple purposely
> >> releases another update to their iOS that breaks any significant
> >> "breakthrough" Linux programmers make at "cracking" some of their
> >> code. After all, they have share holders, artists and record
> >> companies to answer to.
> >>
> >> I gave up the iTunes battle of *buntu long ago. I keep an old G4
> >> PowerPC Mac around to back up my wife's iPhone. You can probably get
> >> a G4, or G5 really cheap online or maybe at a garage sale. It's saved
> >> me a lot of frustration.
> >>
> >> Eric
> >>
> >> PS - Search for the Mac application called Audion sometime - what
> >> most Mac users back then (2000?) knew iTunes was based on when it
> >> came out. It had hundreds of skins too, only they called them
> >> "Faces." Lots of other neat features too. I miss it.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > I'm not an iTunes or iThings user (OK, I currently have an older Mac
> > laptop, but I'm not attached to it and just read eBooks and watch TV
> > over the Internet on it -- easily done on *buntu. I plan to install
> > Lubuntu on it eventually).
> >
> > But I am very interested in Lubuntu as a Windows XP replacement, so I
> > have been reading this thread with interest.
> >
> > Enlighten me further about the nature of the objection that there is
> > no iTunes support or replacement on Linux. The iTunes web site
> > describes it thus: "iTunes is the easiest way to organize and enjoy
> > the music, movies, TV shows, apps, and books you’ve already got — and
> > shop for the ones you want to get."
> >
> > Granted (perhaps?) that nothing on Linux has the scope, vertical
> > integration (and polish?) of iTunes. Still, can't all the same
> > functions be handled via a couple good players/readers + a web browser?
> >
> > In other words, is this just a question of familiarity, and maybe
> > adding a dash of single-interface convenience?
> >
> > [I read earlier that the best work-around seemed to be iTunes in a
> > Windows virtual machine or dual-booting with Windows, but both of
> > these add a big chunk of security degradation, especially if the
> > Windows choice is XP.]
> >
> The problem is Apple.  iDevices only work with Apple services.  My
> android phone is extremely easy to put music on in *buntu, I simply plug
> it in and put music in the folder I want.  I am sure you can also do it
> through a variety of media players.  Some people like the iTunes
> interface, though I have never liked iTunes or its interface.  The
> program loads slowly and has to load all the music into its own
> directory or mess up all the filenames/folders.  It is extremely
> difficult to sync music to a new iPhone, if it has never been connected
> to iTunes (I have never heard of it being done with recent version).  I
> assume Apple does intentionally break any workarounds, as those are a
> 'security' risk.  Apple runs a fully integrated platform.  They control
> the hardware and the software of all their devices, and optimise the OS
> for those devices.  GNU/Linux cannot do that since it runs everything
> from small embeded systems, car infotainment systems, phones, huge
> server rooms, my laptops, and a myriad of other things (basically
> anything anyone wants to use an OS for).  iTunes only runs on Apple
> devices and Windows.  They could choose to support Ubuntu if enough
> people cared and threw a big enough fit about it.  There are plenty of
> music apps for GNU/Linux.  Xnoise is a particularly pretty and fast
> media player.  Gnome is making another music player for their new
> version, though I dislike the direction Gnome has taken (removing
> functionality and hiding features).  I use Banshee/Rhythmbox as they can
> import CDs to ogg format (yes, I still use CDs).
> And as far as features are concerned Banshee is very close to iTunes.
> You can watch video and listen to music.  You can buy music from within
> the app.  You can stream video into it.
>
> The bottom line is people want to buy music on iTunes (some artists only
> release to iTunes, and release special things only for iTunes).  People
> want to sync their iDevices.  Apple wants complete control over every
> aspect of their product, and GNU/Linux users want that control (well
> most of us, some don't really care), and these philosophies are
> incompatible.... so to the true nature of Ubuntu/GNU-Linux we make
> workarounds, some work, some do not.
>
>
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