[Lubuntu-qa] [Lubuntu-brainstorming] [LXLE] LXLE Paradigm goes final with 12.04.3 update.

Ho Wan Chan smartboyhw at gmail.com
Tue Aug 20 08:12:21 UTC 2013

Hello Ali, Phill, Lubuntu Communications Team and Lubuntu users,

I had a chat with the LXLE developer in an publicly-accessible IRC channel.
Here are the logs.


So, let's cool down now:)

Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
Ubuntu Member

2013/8/20 Ho Wan Chan <smartboyhw at gmail.com>

> Hello Lubuntu Communications Team and Lubuntu users,
> I have used the "Contact" link of LXLE's website to complain about such an
> early release. LXLE has obviously confused official release announcements
> by Ubuntu Release Team with lsb_release and DistroWatch information. The
> version number (12.04.3) confuses everyone.
> Regards,
> Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
> Ubuntu Member
> 2013/8/20 Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjjawad at gmail.com>
>> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 3:39 AM, Phill Whiteside <PhillW at ubuntu.com>wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 12,04.3 LTS goes into testing 22nd August? The testers are awaiting? I'm
>>> not too sure what you are aiming at?
>>> As you have removed things like lx-terminal and replaced it with
>>> different terminal system; it seems to me that lxle is no longer an attempt
>>> to keep lubuntu 12.04 active, but a whole new community re-spin based on
>>> lubuntu. Whilst we have no issues with community re spins, if you are
>>> taking the default parts of lubuntu out, it is no longer an lts attempt of
>>> lubuntu 12.04, but a community spin. As such, you should alter your
>>> description from being:
>>> lxle will support 12.04 as if it were an lubuntu LTS
>>> into:
>>> lxle will change lubuntu 12.04 as we see fit.
>>> It is important that people using it know the difference.
>>> Regards,
>>> Phill.
>>> On 19 August 2013 23:42, Lxle Lubuntu <
>>> notification+zj4ozoaz=9sc at facebookmail.com> wrote:
>>>> **
>>>>  Lxle Lubuntu posted in LXLE<http://www.facebook.com/n/?groups%2Flxlegroup%2Fpermalink%2F204058699762145%2F&aref=30823086&medium=email&mid=87c9c91G5af348fef078G1d652aeG96&bcode=1.1376952163.AbmppQ8K9n3H0FcF&n_m=phillw%40vpolink.com>
>>>> [image: Lxle Lubuntu]<http://www.facebook.com/n/?profile.php&id=100005413722780&aref=30823086&medium=email&mid=87c9c91G5af348fef078G1d652aeG96&bcode=1.1376952163.AbmppQ8K9n3H0FcF&n_m=phillw%40vpolink.com> Lxle
>>>> Lubuntu<http://www.facebook.com/n/?profile.php&id=100005413722780&aref=30823086&medium=email&mid=87c9c91G5af348fef078G1d652aeG96&bcode=1.1376952163.AbmppQ8K9n3H0FcF&n_m=phillw%40vpolink.com> 19
>>>> August 23:42
>>>> LXLE Paradigm goes final with 12.04.3 update.
>>>> Paradigm is a tentative attempt to create four different desktop
>>>> paradigms for users to choose from once they start up their aging computers
>>>> when using LXLE. Just because a computer may be aging shouldn't hinder your
>>>> work flow.
>>>> LXLE paradigm is not an attempt to completely mimic other desktops
>>>> features and functions but to provide a desktop scheme that is familiar to
>>>> all different types of computer users whether your comfortable with Linux,
>>>> Mac or Windows operating systems.
>>>> LXLE default programs are easy to understand once you understand the
>>>> philosophy. 'If your going to save system resources with a light system,
>>>> then you should spend those resources on more capable programs."
>>>>
>>>> http://lxle.net/index.php?id=articles&post=lxle-paradigm-goes-final-with-12043-update<http://www.facebook.com/l/PAQHEL9iB/lxle.net/index.php?id=articles&post=lxle-paradigm-goes-final-with-12043-update>
>>>> Articles The LXLE Desktop...<http://www.facebook.com/l/JAQE6aAA4AQGq-O_Uvh6HbTgG6QUd7CmzxFG1XiOYLtY_Yg/lxle.net/index.php?id=articles&post=lxle-paradigm-goes-final-with-12043-update>
>>>>  lxle.net<http://www.facebook.com/l/JAQE6aAA4AQGq-O_Uvh6HbTgG6QUd7CmzxFG1XiOYLtY_Yg/lxle.net/index.php?id=articles&post=lxle-paradigm-goes-final-with-12043-update>
>>>> lxle articles lubuntu extra life extension
>>>>  View Post on Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/n/?groups%2Flxlegroup%2Fpermalink%2F204058699762145%2F&aref=30823086&medium=email&mid=87c9c91G5af348fef078G1d652aeG96&bcode=1.1376952163.AbmppQ8K9n3H0FcF&n_m=phillw%40vpolink.com>· Edit
>>>> email settings<http://www.facebook.com/n/?settings&tab=notifications&section=group_notification&aref=30823086&medium=email&mid=87c9c91G5af348fef078G1d652aeG96&bcode=1.1376952163.AbmppQ8K9n3H0FcF&n_m=phillw%40vpolink.com>· Reply to this email to add a comment.
>>>> --
>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw
>> What a shame :)
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule
>> 12.04.3 is not yet released.
>> After I have posted the above link on LXLE Facebook Page with a
>> screenshot to the same link that shows and proves 12.04.3 is not yet
>> released, I got BANNED from that page :D
>> https://www.facebook.com/LubuntuExtraLifeExtension/posts/209282802528841
>> This, to prove one simple fact, there is a misleading process and guess
>> what? it is not allowed over here :)
>> This actually will harm NO ONE but the one after this project. It will
>> destroy its reputation. LXLE has proved one thing to me at least that it is
>> not trust worthy and above all, misleading everyone with wrong information.
>> I have no problem to be banned. However, I do have a huge problem to see
>> someone misleading the community and remain silent :)
>> If you can not prove me wrong and you are actually proving me right by
>> banning me, then why the headache? why you are trying to waste everyone's
>> time with misleading wrong information?
>> I knew from day 1 that LXLE is not an LTS release for Lubuntu and have
>> proved that but decided to remain silent. Who cares? if it is an LTS
>> version or not? we do care about the trust some of us have put into your
>> words and we finally came to know what is going on!!!! what a shame!
>> I strongly advise you to change the description as Phill suggested and
>> correct the mistake you have done (misleading users) and apologize to your
>> users. Show some respect to the users who trusted you :)
>> Thank you so much!
>> P.S.
>> Do not forget to contact distrowatch and ask them to update that post:
>> http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=08012
>> P.S.2
>> @Everyone: When you ban someone from a Facebook Page, he/she can no
>> longer post anything on that page. And when you delete his/her posts,
>> obviously, you are no longer exist on that page nor your posts that you
>> made.
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>> *Best Regards,
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