Roadmap for Lubuntu
j.nadeau at charter.net
Fri Apr 26 03:30:38 UTC 2013
By flavors do you mean Desktop environments? Is so I've tried them all
and can tell you what I know.
On 04/25/2013 09:33 PM, Jackson Doak wrote:
> not to take focus away from lubuntu here, but jonathan and fernado,
> could you both try all of the flavours and try and find bugs in the
> accessablity stuff?
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Jonathan Nadeau
> <j.nadeau at charter.net <mailto:j.nadeau at charter.net>> wrote:
> I third Fernando's suggestion for accessibility both he and I are
> blind GNU/Linux users and would love to see Lubuntu accessible.
> I've done a lot of work with it and have most of it accessible.
> The only problem I have right now is making the panel accessible
> to the Orca screen reader. There aren't a lot of changes that
> need to be made to get it as accessible as I have it now. I would
> like to put off the Razor QT desktop for a while. I have tested it
> and it is some what accessible but needs a lot of work. I think in
> the next year it can improve greatly. At some point if anyone
> wants to know what i did to get lubuntu accessible let me know and
> we can talk. Thanks for all of your hard work on this project.
> On 04/25/2013 08:49 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
>> Hi Boss,
>> we did discuss, and finally went with a new desktop system once
>> before. Provided, as then, we have a Plan 'B' (which we used),
>> I'm sure none of the testers will have issues. (Well, they can
>> scream at me! )
>> As one of the comments here has said. You fully know that one of
>> my goals is for lubuntu to have full accessibility 'out of the
>> box'. People needing accessibility are so often forgotten, or
>> needing specifications of machines far beyond their budgets.
>> The 'older, older' computers may not be around in 2017 if we do
>> make an LTS 14.04 which still supports them, let's ensure that
>> these people know that they will not be abandoned.
>> Documentation on the CD... A whole new can of worms... how much
>> room is spare on the CD and how many languages can we have it
>> translated into? It is obviously possible and I look forward to
>> discussing that further.
>> But?..... Go For It !!!!
>> On 26 April 2013 00:52, Julien Lavergne <gilir at ubuntu.com
>> <mailto:gilir at ubuntu.com>> wrote:
>> First and following Phill, I want to thank you all for this 13.04
>> release. Releases after releases, it seems to go smoother
>> than the
>> last one :-)
>> However, it's time to think about the future. During the last
>> there were a lot of news from Canonical about the future of
>> Lubuntu is part of the family, so every big changes in Ubuntu
>> Lubuntu. However, and I want to make it clear for anyone :
>> Lubuntu is
>> a community project, with its own release schedules, its own
>> choices …
>> That's said, let's go with some ideas :-) What I'm going to
>> say, it's
>> a very long proposal, open for discussions. But discussions mean
>> arguments if you have another opinion ;-)
>> Next steps are 13.10, and 14.04 which should be a LTS version for
>> Ubuntu. Last LTS (12.04), I considered that we were not ready
>> for such
>> commitment. I was also unsure of the work needed to make a
>> good LTS.
>> With more experience, I have now a better vision of this goal.
>> So, let's make it simple, I would like Lubuntu 14.04 to be a
>> LTS version.
>> But claiming we want a LTS its' not enough. First, we need to
>> make it
>> stable enough, so we can safely claim it's a LTS, because
>> people who
>> install a LTS want a stable system. But, I also would like to
>> make it
>> sexy enough to be proud of it, to make people happy to
>> recommend it. I
>> would like to make it THE release of Lubuntu, the reference
>> of all
>> Lubuntu releases. To achieve it, I have several goals in
>> mind, items
>> that I consider we need to finish for the LTS, and I think we can
>> finish them :
>> - Finish lxsession, to make the system fully customizable and
>> able to
>> run minimal set of applications by default (I'll talk about
>> it later,
>> when you will be able to test it properly).
>> - Fully translatable : it's vital to make it available in a
>> maximum of languages
>> - Artwork : finish the icon theme for a GTK environment,
>> finish the
>> other pieces of the artwork and its integration, to make
>> Lubuntu even
>> more beautiful
>> Another item I would like to add, but I'm not sure we will be
>> able to
>> make it, it's an off-line documentation, or a nice manual.
>> Of course, we need also the usual bug fixes and small
>> everywhere, but the main focus should be on those topics.
>> Also, soon we will need to decide which applications we want
>> in this
>> LTS. We should do it in an other discussion, but it's the
>> right time
>> to do big changes if we consider they are good.
>> Considering all the big changes which may happen for 13.10,
>> I'm also
>> thinking of the possibility to not do a proper 13.10 release,
>> depending of the state of 13.10 after all the big structural
>> and near feature freeze. Again, it can be reconsidered in due
>> but we may keep this in mind. I'm prepared to drop 1 release
>> if we can
>> do a very good 14.04 LTS.
>> And after 14.04 ?
>> Well, you probably know that Canonical is pushing for a Qt
>> switch over
>> GTK, but also by changing it's display manager (MIR). You may
>> also that LXDE is thinking about switching to Qt too, by joining
>> forces with Razor-qt desktop environment. All those changes
>> may be an
>> opportunity to start another adventure, using Razor-qt as a
>> base. It's
>> also a reason to release 14.04 as a LTS, because it could be
>> the final
>> release with LXDE and GTK. We will also be free to make very big
>> changes for 14.10, because we know we have a LTS behind to
>> for a long time.
>> To prepare this, I'll also work on a specific session (call
>> pronounce it “Cute Lubuntu” ;-)), to test during 13.10 and
>> 14.04, if
>> the option to go with Qt is possible.
>> So, what do you think about it ? :-)
>> Julien Lavergne
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