Roadmap for Lubuntu

Jonathan Nadeau j.nadeau at charter.net
Fri Apr 26 03:30:38 UTC 2013


By flavors do you mean Desktop environments? Is so I've tried them all 
and can tell you what I know.

  On 04/25/2013 09:33 PM, Jackson Doak wrote:
> not to take focus away from lubuntu here, but jonathan and fernado, 
> could you both try all of the flavours and try and find bugs in the 
> accessablity stuff?
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Jonathan Nadeau 
> <j.nadeau at charter.net <mailto:j.nadeau at charter.net>> wrote:
>
>     I third Fernando's suggestion for accessibility both he and I are
>     blind GNU/Linux users and would love to see Lubuntu accessible.
>     I've done a lot of work with it and have most of it accessible.
>     The only problem I have right now is making the panel accessible
>     to the Orca screen reader. There aren't a lot of changes that 
>     need to be made to get it as accessible as I have it now. I would
>     like to put off the Razor QT desktop for a while. I have tested it
>     and it is some what accessible but needs a lot of work. I think in
>     the next year it can improve greatly. At some point if anyone
>     wants to know what i did to get lubuntu accessible let me know and
>     we can talk. Thanks for all of your hard work on this project.
>
>        On 04/25/2013 08:49 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
>>     Hi Boss,
>>
>>     we did discuss, and finally went with a new desktop system once
>>     before. Provided, as then, we have a Plan 'B' (which we used),
>>     I'm sure none of the testers will have issues. (Well, they can
>>     scream at me! )
>>
>>     As one of the comments here has said. You fully know that one of
>>     my goals is for lubuntu to have full accessibility 'out of the
>>     box'. People needing accessibility are so often forgotten, or
>>     needing specifications of machines far beyond their budgets.
>>
>>     The 'older, older' computers may not be around in 2017 if we do
>>     make an LTS 14.04 which still supports them, let's ensure that
>>     these people know that they will not be abandoned.
>>
>>     Documentation on the CD... A whole new can of worms... how much
>>     room is spare on the CD and how many languages can we have it
>>     translated into? It is obviously possible and I look forward to
>>     discussing that further.
>>
>>     But?..... Go For It !!!!
>>
>>     Regards,
>>
>>     Phill.
>>
>>
>>     On 26 April 2013 00:52, Julien Lavergne <gilir at ubuntu.com
>>     <mailto:gilir at ubuntu.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Hi,
>>
>>         First and following Phill, I want to thank you all for this 13.04
>>         release. Releases after releases, it seems to go smoother
>>         than the
>>         last one :-)
>>
>>         However, it's time to think about the future. During the last
>>         cycle,
>>         there were a lot of news from Canonical about the future of
>>         Ubuntu.
>>         Lubuntu is part of the family, so every big changes in Ubuntu
>>         affect
>>         Lubuntu. However, and I want to make it clear for anyone :
>>         Lubuntu is
>>         a community project, with its own release schedules, its own
>>         choices …
>>
>>         That's said, let's go with some ideas :-) What I'm going to
>>         say, it's
>>         a very long proposal, open for discussions. But discussions mean
>>         arguments if you have another opinion ;-)
>>
>>         Next steps are 13.10, and 14.04 which should be a LTS version for
>>         Ubuntu. Last LTS (12.04), I considered that we were not ready
>>         for such
>>         commitment. I was also unsure of the work needed to make a
>>         good LTS.
>>         With more experience, I have now a better vision of this goal.
>>
>>         So, let's make it simple, I would like Lubuntu 14.04 to be a
>>         LTS version.
>>
>>         But claiming we want a LTS its' not enough. First, we need to
>>         make it
>>         stable enough, so we can safely claim it's a LTS, because
>>         people who
>>         install a LTS want a stable system. But, I also would like to
>>         make it
>>         sexy enough to be proud of it, to make people happy to
>>         recommend it. I
>>         would like to make it THE release of Lubuntu, the reference
>>         of all
>>         Lubuntu releases. To achieve it, I have several goals in
>>         mind, items
>>         that I consider we need to finish for the LTS, and I think we can
>>         finish them :
>>
>>         - Finish lxsession, to make the system fully customizable and
>>         able to
>>         run minimal set of applications by default (I'll talk about
>>         it later,
>>         when you will be able to test it properly).
>>         - Fully translatable : it's vital to make it available in a
>>         maximum of languages
>>         - Artwork : finish the icon theme for a GTK environment,
>>         finish the
>>         other pieces of the artwork and its integration, to make
>>         Lubuntu even
>>         more beautiful
>>
>>         Another item I would like to add, but I'm not sure we will be
>>         able to
>>         make it, it's an off-line documentation, or a nice manual.
>>
>>         Of course, we need also the usual bug fixes and small
>>         improvements
>>         everywhere, but the main focus should be on those topics.
>>
>>         Also, soon we will need to decide which applications we want
>>         in this
>>         LTS. We should do it in an other discussion, but it's the
>>         right time
>>         to do big changes if we consider they are good.
>>
>>         Considering all the big changes which may happen for 13.10,
>>         I'm also
>>         thinking of the possibility to not do a proper 13.10 release,
>>         depending of the state of 13.10 after all the big structural
>>         changes,
>>         and near feature freeze. Again, it can be reconsidered in due
>>         time,
>>         but we may keep this in mind. I'm prepared to drop 1 release
>>         if we can
>>         do a very good 14.04 LTS.
>>
>>         And after 14.04 ?
>>
>>         Well, you probably know that Canonical is pushing for a Qt
>>         switch over
>>         GTK, but also by changing it's display manager (MIR). You may
>>         know
>>         also that LXDE is thinking about switching to Qt too, by joining
>>         forces with Razor-qt desktop environment. All those changes
>>         may be an
>>         opportunity to start another adventure, using Razor-qt as a
>>         base. It's
>>         also a reason to release 14.04 as a LTS, because it could be
>>         the final
>>         release with LXDE and GTK.  We will also be free to make very big
>>         changes for 14.10, because we know we have a LTS behind to
>>         recommend,
>>         for a long time.
>>
>>         To prepare this, I'll also work on a specific session (call
>>         QLubuntu,
>>         pronounce it “Cute Lubuntu” ;-)), to test during 13.10 and
>>         14.04, if
>>         the option to go with Qt is possible.
>>
>>         So, what do you think about it ? :-)
>>
>>         Regards,
>>         Julien Lavergne
>>
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