Roadmap for Lubuntu
j.nadeau at charter.net
Fri Apr 26 01:30:41 UTC 2013
I third Fernando's suggestion for accessibility both he and I are blind
GNU/Linux users and would love to see Lubuntu accessible. I've done a
lot of work with it and have most of it accessible. The only problem I
have right now is making the panel accessible to the Orca screen reader.
There aren't a lot of changes that need to be made to get it as
accessible as I have it now. I would like to put off the Razor QT
desktop for a while. I have tested it and it is some what accessible but
needs a lot of work. I think in the next year it can improve greatly. At
some point if anyone wants to know what i did to get lubuntu accessible
let me know and we can talk. Thanks for all of your hard work on this
On 04/25/2013 08:49 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
> Hi Boss,
> we did discuss, and finally went with a new desktop system once
> before. Provided, as then, we have a Plan 'B' (which we used), I'm
> sure none of the testers will have issues. (Well, they can scream at me! )
> As one of the comments here has said. You fully know that one of my
> goals is for lubuntu to have full accessibility 'out of the box'.
> People needing accessibility are so often forgotten, or needing
> specifications of machines far beyond their budgets.
> The 'older, older' computers may not be around in 2017 if we do make
> an LTS 14.04 which still supports them, let's ensure that these people
> know that they will not be abandoned.
> Documentation on the CD... A whole new can of worms... how much room
> is spare on the CD and how many languages can we have it translated
> into? It is obviously possible and I look forward to discussing that
> But?..... Go For It !!!!
> On 26 April 2013 00:52, Julien Lavergne <gilir at ubuntu.com
> <mailto:gilir at ubuntu.com>> wrote:
> First and following Phill, I want to thank you all for this 13.04
> release. Releases after releases, it seems to go smoother than the
> last one :-)
> However, it's time to think about the future. During the last cycle,
> there were a lot of news from Canonical about the future of Ubuntu.
> Lubuntu is part of the family, so every big changes in Ubuntu affect
> Lubuntu. However, and I want to make it clear for anyone : Lubuntu is
> a community project, with its own release schedules, its own
> choices ...
> That's said, let's go with some ideas :-) What I'm going to say, it's
> a very long proposal, open for discussions. But discussions mean
> arguments if you have another opinion ;-)
> Next steps are 13.10, and 14.04 which should be a LTS version for
> Ubuntu. Last LTS (12.04), I considered that we were not ready for such
> commitment. I was also unsure of the work needed to make a good LTS.
> With more experience, I have now a better vision of this goal.
> So, let's make it simple, I would like Lubuntu 14.04 to be a LTS
> But claiming we want a LTS its' not enough. First, we need to make it
> stable enough, so we can safely claim it's a LTS, because people who
> install a LTS want a stable system. But, I also would like to make it
> sexy enough to be proud of it, to make people happy to recommend it. I
> would like to make it THE release of Lubuntu, the reference of all
> Lubuntu releases. To achieve it, I have several goals in mind, items
> that I consider we need to finish for the LTS, and I think we can
> finish them :
> - Finish lxsession, to make the system fully customizable and able to
> run minimal set of applications by default (I'll talk about it later,
> when you will be able to test it properly).
> - Fully translatable : it's vital to make it available in a
> maximum of languages
> - Artwork : finish the icon theme for a GTK environment, finish the
> other pieces of the artwork and its integration, to make Lubuntu even
> more beautiful
> Another item I would like to add, but I'm not sure we will be able to
> make it, it's an off-line documentation, or a nice manual.
> Of course, we need also the usual bug fixes and small improvements
> everywhere, but the main focus should be on those topics.
> Also, soon we will need to decide which applications we want in this
> LTS. We should do it in an other discussion, but it's the right time
> to do big changes if we consider they are good.
> Considering all the big changes which may happen for 13.10, I'm also
> thinking of the possibility to not do a proper 13.10 release,
> depending of the state of 13.10 after all the big structural changes,
> and near feature freeze. Again, it can be reconsidered in due time,
> but we may keep this in mind. I'm prepared to drop 1 release if we can
> do a very good 14.04 LTS.
> And after 14.04 ?
> Well, you probably know that Canonical is pushing for a Qt switch over
> GTK, but also by changing it's display manager (MIR). You may know
> also that LXDE is thinking about switching to Qt too, by joining
> forces with Razor-qt desktop environment. All those changes may be an
> opportunity to start another adventure, using Razor-qt as a base. It's
> also a reason to release 14.04 as a LTS, because it could be the final
> release with LXDE and GTK. We will also be free to make very big
> changes for 14.10, because we know we have a LTS behind to recommend,
> for a long time.
> To prepare this, I'll also work on a specific session (call QLubuntu,
> pronounce it "Cute Lubuntu" ;-)), to test during 13.10 and 14.04, if
> the option to go with Qt is possible.
> So, what do you think about it ? :-)
> Julien Lavergne
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