[Lubuntu-wiki-docs] End Of Life..

Tue Apr 9 23:40:47 UTC 2013

And I had to go back to my archive on Gmail to find more about it:

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*On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:33 PM*, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjjawad at gmail.com>
 wrote:

> For the ones like me who are not cryptologists, PAE : Physical Address
>> Extension.
>> See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Physical_Address_Extension<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension> a
>> good definition.
>> But* I'd like to know why it's important (if at all) and how it relates
>> to Lubuntu.*
>
>
> We had that discussion before but I can tell you are new to our mailing
> list so allow me to explain briefly about that :)
>
> Some old machines has *NON-PAE CPU*. If you have a Linux Distribution
> with a *PAE Kernel*, then that system will not be bootable on a machine
> with NON-PAE CPU.
>
> During the development of 12.04, both Xubuntu and Lubuntu teams decided to
> go for a NON-PAE Kernel (Generic Kernel - run "uname -r" in the terminal)
> so those users with NON-PAE CPU will not have any problem and they still
> can use Lubuntu and Xubuntu 12.04.
>
> Ubuntu Kernel Team has decided to drop the NON-PAE Kernel and go for PAE
> Kernel.
> As per Julien, we can't go against that unless we hire a developer who can
> make it possible.
> We don't have any database/numbers of how many users over there with a
> NON-PAE CPU, that is why I asked :)
>
> Hope it helps :)

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Above is an old discussion about PAE and NON-PAE Kernels :)
We managed to go NON-PAE for 12.04 but we couldn't for 12.10 :)

Hope everything is clear now ;)
Anyone can go back to the mailing list archive if desired :)

On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjjawad at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi there David :)
>
> I would strongly recommend to have a read here:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu#System_Requirements
>
> and I'm sure you may want to re-phrase what you previously said :)
>
> Lubuntu 12.04 is using a NON-PAE Kernel. Well, the link says it all :)
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 2:59 AM, David Gumberg <davidnoizgumberg at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> For those of you who are wondering, the reason older machines can't run
>> 12.10 or 12.04, it's because the kernel uses PAE (it's a method to have
>> more than 4 gigs of ram on a 32-bit operating system I think), and for
>> those of you who have hardware that doesn't support PAE, the two good
>> alternatives are LXLE and Fedora (LXDE spin). If you want something more
>> upstream, go with the Fedora, but if for some reason you ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO
>> have that Debian/buntu experience I'd go with LXLE (Lubuntu Extra-Life
>> Edition), it's Lubuntu 12.04 with a couple of tweaks, and it uses a non-PAE
>> kernel. I've tried and used both of them, and and Fedora is a bit more
>> vanilla LXDE so I prefer it, but both alternatives are awesome!
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjjawad at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I've been discussing this issue and Lubuntu 12.04 being 100% LTS or not
>>> [1] and all the confusion about "will Lubuntu still support my very old
>>> machine or not?" for the last two weeks or maybe more.
>>>
>>> Long story short, I will jump in and find out myself some if not all the
>>> answers that our users are seeking and looking for.
>>>
>>> http://phillw.net/isos/lubuntu/lucid/
>>> I'm downloading Lubuntu 10.04 right now from the above link.
>>>
>>> I will install it once done on my test machine.
>>> I need to see myself what is going on and the EOL for the 10.04 Desktop
>>> version is coming soon, less than a month. That will be really interesting
>>> :)
>>> As you know/may know, each release has different Kernel [2]. Some
>>> machines can't use 12.04 or 12.10 because the support had been
>>> dropped/stopped. So, if you guys have Qs about that, you do now know who is
>>> doing the test and experiments.
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> [1] - http://i46.tinypic.com/i24igz.jpg
>>>
>>> [2] -
>>> http://amjjawad.blogspot.com/2013/04/lubuntu-and-very-old-machines.html<http://amjjawad.blogspot.ae/2013/04/lubuntu-and-very-old-machines.html>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Phill Whiteside <PhillW at ubuntu.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have an update for 10.04
>>>>
>>>> *Ending Ubuntu Desktop support just means that we no longer release
>>>> desktop-
>>>> related updates, the repository won't (can't) go away and be archived,
>>>> since
>>>> server, as you note, still depends on it.  In that sense, lucid in
>>>> general
>>>> is "supported" for another three years.  Nothing changes for people,
>>>> they
>>>> just won't get non-server SRUs and security updates from Canonical, nor
>>>> is
>>>> there a community commitment to make them.
>>>>
>>>> So, your users don't need to do anything.  Kernels will keep getting
>>>> updated,
>>>> and life goes on.*
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Phill.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  On 29 March 2013 21:21, Phill Whiteside <PhillW at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> just so everyone knows. The up coming EOL dates were a little bit
>>>>> staggered on the exact dates. To bring everything together, the Release
>>>>> Team have decided upon the following.
>>>>>
>>>>> The following releases will all reach End Of Life on May 9th 2013.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hardy 8.04 (Server)
>>>>> Ubuntu 10.04 (Desk Top)
>>>>> Ubuntu 11.10
>>>>>
>>>>> As 10.04 is supported on server until 2015 thus giving such people at
>>>>> least a chance of still receiving kernel updates, I have asked if there is
>>>>> a way for the 10.04 lubuntu desktop to continue to receive the kernel
>>>>> updates for lubuntu 10.04 desktop for those of whom the dropping of the old
>>>>> chip sets is the only option they have.
>>>>>
>>>>> The area at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases has been updated by the
>>>>> team to reflect the revised dates.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Phill.
>>>>> --
>>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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