[Lubuntu] Recoll not a good fit as a replacement for Catfish (or LXFind)

John Hupp lubuntu at prpcompany.com
Thu Sep 13 17:46:09 UTC 2012

Thanks for the gnome-search-tool recommendation.

Reading elsewhere, it seems that it was the default search tool in 
Ubuntu until very recently.  As such I imagine that it is well tested.

I read also that, like Catfish and others, it is a front-end for find 
and locate.

And in fact, in my own quick test, it did not generate "Fatal error, 
search was aborted" when no files were found in a search on the root 
directory.  So it's error-handling succeeds in at least one case where 
Catfish's fails.

It seems like a very good choice for Lubuntu.

On 9/11/2012 11:25 AM, Axel FILMORE wrote:
> For information I started to write a search program :
> http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1347117119.png
> It uses find and grep.
> It's integrated to a file manager with also an integrated terminal :
> http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1347376641.png
> It's currently in very alpha stage and I have no idea if it will be
> stable someday. :-D Or not.
> Currently I would recommend gnome-search-tool :
> http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/_media/gnome-search-tool.jpg
> It's written in C and GTK3, it's maintained, it's probably the best
> choice IMO.
> Cheers. :-P
> On 11/09/2012 16:28, John Hupp wrote:
>> I am starting a new thread here since the discussion veered in a new
>> direction from the original topic (which was "LXFinder installed instead
>> of LXFind").
>> I successfully installed Recoll on Lubuntu, read most of the manual, and
>> had some exchange with the developer (Jean-Francois Dockes), who is
>> active.  The Recoll home page is at http://www.lesbonscomptes.com/recoll/.
>> My take: This is a content search program that will also accomplish
>> much-less-ambitious file name search.  The program has a sophisticated
>> design, is very flexible, and very well documented in English and French.
>> Apart from the Qt-based GUI, there is command line support, a KDE KIO
>> slave interface, and a programming interface.  (So if the developers of
>> Catfish or LXFind were so inclined, their currently
>> file-name-search-only tools could be extended to content search, all
>> through a single interface.)
>> The program has native support for several MIME types that commonly
>> store readable content, and there are filters for most of the other
>> common readable-content MIME types.
>> However impressive the program is, however, it would seem not to be a
>> good candidate to replace Catfish as the recommended GUI search tool for
>> Lubuntu.  The dev notes that it is Qt based, which seems out of step
>> with Lubuntu's aims for lightness.  The database index that powers such
>> impressive results is also very large -- depending on the mix of content
>> that it is indexing, the database can be 15-65% the size of the original
>> content (see http://www.lesbonscomptes.com/recoll/perfs.html).  Memory
>> usage during indexing can peak at 65 to a couple hundred MB.  File-name
>> indexing is also not its strongest suit.  And it is tuned by default for
>> searching the home directory rather than the entire file system (though
>> with some configuration, it would seem to be possible to have it do full
>> content searching in the home directory and more modest searching of
>> file names and attributes in the file system at large).
>> So for the moment, I would be content if Catfish could find its way
>> through its error-handling bug (which I have been posting about under
>> the topic: "Catfish search result: Fatal error, search was aborted").
>> On 9/8/2012 12:59 PM, Karl Anliot wrote:
>>> John, I "don't have time" to test catfish, but if catfish doesn't work.
>>> Please test this out, and post your results!!
>>> http://danaleeling.blogspot.com/2012/09/lubuntu-1204-desktop-search-is-recoll.html
>>> On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:04 PM, John Hupp <lubuntu at prpcompany.com> wrote:
>>>> In the Lubuntu documentation, Catfish is the currently recommended GUI
>>>> search tool.  But it notes "Though as of time of writing, LXFind is in the
>>>> Lubuntu PPA and is forthcoming shortly."
>>>> Elsewhere in a few slim references it seems to be expected for 12.10.
>>>> But again, among the few references, a number of users find that the
>>>> prescribed installation installs LXFinder instead of LXFind, and LXFinder
>>>> does not work.  And that is what I found.  I set LXFinder searching for a
>>>> known-existing file, and it did not find it, but did generate a slew of
>>>> "permission denied" errors.  I'll add that the LXFinder shortcut does indeed
>>>> point to /user/bin/lxfind, so this is not a simple matter of a
>>>> mis-constructed shortcut.
>>>> My installation commands:
>>>>      sudo add-apt-repository ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa
>>>>      sudo apt-get update
>>>>      sudo apt-get install -y lxfind
>>>> One thing I notice about the documentation statement, though, is that it
>>>> refers to the Lubuntu PPA rather than the lubuntu-desktop PPA which I used
>>>> in my installation.
>>>> Did I use an obsolete PPA, or is there another good explanation here (or
>>>> even a bad but accurate explanation)?
>>>> I'll also observe here that I regard GUI file search as a necessary part of
>>>> the software stack.  It seems like something that's just gotta work on a
>>>> modern O/S.  And I'm testing LXFind because I found that Catfish generates a
>>>> disturbing error result when it can't find a match.  (Posted in a separate
>>>> thread.)
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