About my health, top posting vs bottom posting, and Ubuntu forums

Ali Linx (amjjawad) amjjawad at gmail.com
Tue May 1 16:35:24 UTC 2012

I can't remain silent anymore, IMHO, this is getting a pure waste of time,
effort and it's totally useless if you ask me.
My friend Lance here has explained why he can't use bottom post instead of
top post. What is so hard about that to understand?
I mean, seriously? is it that important? do I have to change my Email
address or install a plugin or do whatever has been suggested just to make
it easier for some people to understand what I'm talking about? isn't that
a waste of time for me? so I save their time and waste mine? where is the
logic in this for God's sake?
Instead of wasting our time in this talk, why not to talk about a better
topic or issue?

Has anyone noticed that whenever someone sends an email to the mailing list
asking about anything:
1- The discussion will NEVER reach to a final decision or solution MOST of
the time and very few will end with a clear solution and understandable
2- No matter what the topic is, someone will go off-topic and talk about
something else
3- Some are talking about guidelines or whatever you call it and they don't
follow that themselves

So what is going on here?

Can't we really manage to fix that?

Just for the record:
1- With Forums, whenever you quote a post, your post will be a bottom post
and that is the case in Ubuntu Forum.
2- Even if that feature is not available, you still can do it.
3- Ubuntu Forum at some point is much more organized than our mailing list
- sad by true.
4- Whenever someone goes off-topic on Ubuntu Forum, not only admins but
even user will stop him/her.

Shall I carry on?

PLEASE, don't be offended and don't get me wrong. I love you all, this is
my 2nd family and I have made that clear 1000 times :) I do care about all
of you and as a member of this family, I find it totally waste of time for
what we are doing.

Lance is one of our best testers and without his efforts, we won't be
wherever we are right now.
Others are doing a great job here too.
I'm JOBLESS for 4 years now and instead of finding a job, I'm killing
myself to support Lubuntu as much as possible even when I'm sick, etc.

PLEASE, don't make it HARDER for those who LOVE this place and spend their
days and nights over here to do something for this community. PLEASE!

I'm deeply sorry if my words hurt but I can't remain silent and if you
think I'm too much for this, PLEASE remove me :)

Thank you!

On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Lance <lbsolost at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I'm actually looking at Thunderbird right now, no real reason why other
> than the fact that I already use Firefox, just decided to give it a look.
> Due to the dementia factor I'll have to say that IMHO it seems like an
> incredible waste of time.
> How much time is available for me to waste? No one knows yet but, whether
> it's 6 months or 6 years, could the time be better spent? I always try to
> be polite and cordial in my messaging wherever it's done but apparently
> that's not quite enough :^(
> Lance
> --- On *Tue, 5/1/12, John Collins <johncollins.jd at gmail.com>* wrote:
> From: John Collins <johncollins.jd at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: About my health, top posting vs bottom posting, and Ubuntu
> forums
> To: mika.henrik.mainio at hotmail.com
> Cc: lubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Date: Tuesday, May 1, 2012, 8:51 AM
>  On 05/01/2012 06:43 AM, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
> 01.05.2012 09:10, Jarno Suni kirjoitti:
>  Yahoo Mail webmail top posts signature and quoted text*. You can disable
> both, or use a proper mail client for your Yahoo Mail, or use a
> different webmail account.
>  As far as I know, Yahoo Mail wants payment before it allows users to use
> anything else than the web interface.
> I would look into Zimbra Desktop.  It is a proper email client and I
> believe it allows you IMAP access to your free Yahoo account.  The reason
> is that Yahoo bought Zimbra a few years ago.  Yahoo has since sold Zimbra
> to VMWare, but I think Zimbra Desktop still provides IMAP access to free
> Yahoo mail.  Zimbra is free to download and use.  I used it until recently
> (not for a free yahoo account).  I found it to be quite a nice product.  I
> ran it on Lubuntu - but I recently noticed that there is no 64 bit linux
> version.  However, I ran the 32 bit version on a 64 bit machine without any
> issue.  While I didn't test it, I do remember Yahoo Mail as being one of
> the built in account types that Zimbra automatically sync with.  (I am not
> affiliated with Zimbra or Yahoo).
> Good luck
> John Collins
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