Website & download

Phill Whiteside PhillW at Ubuntu.com
Tue Jun 5 15:15:26 UTC 2012


Renamed.

Regards,

Phill.

On 5 June 2012 15:07, Mark Ballard <markjballard at googlemail.com> wrote:

> Not bad. I think it could be simplified by using less stuffing and more
> bullets. You can get rid of language like "choose this to take full
> advantage of...". It gives the impression that someone is trying to make an
> effort to couch this technospeak in terms that are easy to understand. But
> it doesn't actually add anything. It seems like redundant language. It is
> therefore clutter and hinders comprehension. But I can see what you are
> trying to say.
>
> So e.g. from:
>
> Choose this to take full advantage of computers based on the AMD64 or
> EM64T architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon, Core 2). If you
> have a non-64-bit processor made by AMD, or if you need full support for
> 32-bit code, use the Intel x86 images instead.
>
> To:
>
> Download version _y1_
> For 64-bit computers
> Includes guided install routine
>
> For computers with:         Intel processors -> Pentium 4, Xeon, Core 2,
> (...)
>                                      AMD processors -> Athlon64, Opteron
> (...)
>
> Additional information:    This is the 64bit version of Lubuntu. It is
> designed
>                                      to run on computers built using AMD64
> or Intel EMT
>                                      technology.
>
>                                      64-bit computers will also run the
> regular, 32-bit
>                                      version of Lubuntu. But they will run
> more efficiently
>                                      with this, 64-bit version.
>
>                                      Do not install this version if you
> have a 32-bit
>                                      computer: see <Download version _x1_>
> instead.
>
>                                      Read more about deciding between
>                                      the 64-bit and 32-bit version: <_>
>
> Support:                         This is the long-term support version of
> Lubuntu
>                                       It will be supported until _.
>                                       It is advised after that time that
> you upgrade Lubuntu.
>
> Requirements:                RAM -> _Mb
>                                      Hard disk ->
>
> Additional requirements
> to run guided install:        RAM -> _Mb
>
>                                      If your computer does not meet the
> requirements
>                                      of the guided install, see <Alternate
> Install>
>
> .. and so on. (...) Specify every processor family on which this version
> will run. "Such as" must be forbidden: it ostracises all those not in the
> 'such as' category. Be encyclopaedic. Provide whatever other information
> may be necessary. Provide all the crucial details without grammatical
> clutter.
>
> The stuff about all the different versions can be rewritten into a
> functional style and put on another page. E.g. "Install an older version of
> Lubuntu <_>."
>
>
> On 5 June 2012 14:16, 紳癒礁湖 <rafaellaguna at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> **
>> Ok, doing some experiment. I edited a sub-page and put there our beloved
>> pictos (from Canoncial Design, I'm fuuuul standard compliant). The content
>> is the same, but I think it's a bit clear:
>>
>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu/download
>>
>> If you approve this it could be moved "one folder up" and set it as
>> GetLubuntu default.
>>
>> Do you like it?
>>
>>
>> El dl 04 de 06 de 2012 a les 13:24 +0100, en/na Mark Ballard va escriure:
>>
>>  I would like to give some feedback on a user's experience trying to
>> download and install Lubuntu, if I may.
>>
>>
>>
>>  It's hard to find the download page. Clicking on "Get Ubuntu" takes
>>  you to the help page. Then you have to rummage around on the site to find
>> somewhere to actually download the version you need.
>>
>>
>>
>>  When you do select to download, it gives you v12.04. Even after
>> rummaging around not possible to see any other versions to download.
>>
>>
>>
>>  The help page talks about other versions. It's information implies that
>> 11.10 is the long-term release. But there appears to be nowhere to download
>> the long-term release. The importance of short-term releases became
>> apparent to users recently when, for example, they got shipwrecked with the
>> short term release of Ubuntu before the Unity overhaul. Had they stuck with
>> the long term release prior to that, they would not now be shipwrecked. Yes
>> I am speaking from experience. But what's the point of having a long-term
>> release if you don't make it clear to users that this is the most advisable
>> version to download and then point them to it?
>>
>>
>>
>>  The checksum info page contains info only about 11.10 checksums. But
>> the site downloads 12.04.
>>
>>
>>
>>  The checksum and torrent additions to the download process have really
>> snarled things up for idiot users - sorry, you can't say that, can you?
>> It's snarled things up for 'dummies'. No, you can't say that either, can
>> you? Just because you are not an experienced command-line user,
>> administrator or nerd hobbyist, that doesn't make you a dummy. But you are
>> likely to have plenty else to do: looking after kids, working over-time,
>> fixing the car, fending off zombies. So the install process requires that
>> you learn about torrent clients and command lines and checksums. That's the
>> last thing I need to do. That's eliminated most of the population of the
>> planet as potential users straight off. Point and click, man. What's with
>> all these complications?
>>
>>
>>
>>  So anyway. What I needed: a guarantee that I've got a version that will
>> work with the target machine: PIII, 256Mb; a long term release version; and
>> on the advice of this website, a checksummed version. What I got:
>> likelihood the version I've got doesn't work with my machine, a short term
>> release version, and no checksum validation.
>>
>>
>>
>>  On top of all that, I'm dizzy from going back and forth and round the
>> website for the information I need to perform this simplest of operations:
>> downloading a version to install.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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