Website & download

[Mario Behling]

Hi,

I updated the Get Lubuntu page a bit and tried to reorder and condense
information in order to make it easier to find the downloads for
newbies. Hope it works. Would be great, if anyone could check, if I
got all the links and info right.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu

Thanks,

Mario


On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:20 AM, Phill Whiteside <PhillW at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>
> Rafael,
>
> as ever... top quality work.
>
> I'll take a couple of full sets :)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Phill.
>
> On 4 June 2012 21:08, 紳癒礁湖 <rafaellaguna at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>
>> Yep. I like it. I made for my blog something similar (sorry, attached
>> image):
>> >snip
>>
>> ...with 4 variations. I'll calculate the size and made some mockups, if
>> you agree.
>>
>>
>> El dl 04 de 06 de 2012 a les 20:34 +0100, en/na Phill Whiteside va
>> escriure:
>>
>> Hi Rafael,
>>
>>
>>
>> I'd start with four (Lubuntu does not have arm etc. candidates).
>>
>> 1) 64-Bit (Post about 2007 computers)
>>
>> 2) 32-Bit (Pre about 2007 computers)
>>
>> 3) Mac-Intel
>>
>> 4) Mac-ppc
>>
>>
>>
>> They could then be told the difference between Desktop Install and
>> Alternate, followed by torrent / direct download choices. As to how make
>> this all flow with icons etc, I'll leave that to you, who lives and breathes
>> graphics :)
>>
>>
>>
>> I'd certainly be interested in your ideas,
>> as http://thesii.org/iso/ could certainly do with a make-over :) (There are
>> more iso's to be added there)
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Phill.
>>
>>
>> On 4 June 2012 19:51, 紳癒礁湖 <rafaellaguna at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'm looking at Ubuntu spanish mirror and you're right, there's no trace
>> of Mac images. ARM may be named now Toshiba (I'm not an arch expert, of
>> course). But I count 12 only, maybe it depends on mirrors. Have a look:
>>
>> http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/cdimage/releases/precise/release/
>>
>> But the idea I described in last e-mails (regarding website design) was
>> about including two or four buttons only, pointing directly to the ISOs, in
>> usual archs (32 and 64, ubiquity and alternate, 2x2=4). Don't you think?
>>
>>
>> El dl 04 de 06 de 2012 a les 18:03 +0100, en/na Phill Whiteside va
>> escriure:
>>
>>
>> Hi Rafael,
>>
>>
>> I've just had a look at the ubuntu.com site. I can't even find mention of
>> the Mac series of installs (to say nothing of arm etc.)? We have a total of
>> 9 variants for Lubuntu 12.04. Ubuntu has 15 (excluding server edition) !
>>
>>
>> I'm all for a nice page with icons and descriptions, hopefully the wiki
>> team can come up with one.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> Phill.
>>
>> On 4 June 2012 17:50, 紳癒礁湖 <rafaellaguna at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry, I must say what I think. The people (and I) want to see a BIG
>> button and easier navigation modes, as well as avoiding third party
>> redirected pages. Remember this http://i.imgur.com/5W7B7.png ? That was
>> thinking about ubuntu.com, which is a really gret job, talking in simplicity
>> and efficiency.
>>
>> This will happen again, by many many users.
>>
>> PS. Sorry for being so "graphics nazi", can't avoid it.
>>
>> El dl 04 de 06 de 2012 a les 16:18 +0100, en/na Phill Whiteside va
>> escriure:
>>
>> HI,
>>
>>
>> you say you were on "Get Ubuntu" ? The Lubuntu area is Get Lubuntu [1].
>>
>>
>> The information on that page is up to date and covers as many the vast
>> array of choices available owing to the vast array of computers that Lubuntu
>> will run on. Please also note that none of Lubuntu releases are LTS.
>>
>>
>> The start to Lubuntu Documentation is at [2].
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> Phill.
>> 1. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu
>> 2. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu
>>
>> On 4 June 2012 13:35, Ryan Gauger <rtgkid at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 06/04/2012 07:24 AM, Mark Ballard wrote:
>>
>> I would like to give some feedback on a user's experience trying to
>> download and install Lubuntu, if I may.
>>
>>
>> It's hard to find the download page. Clicking on "Get Ubuntu" takes  you
>> to the help page. Then you have to rummage around on the site to find
>> somewhere to actually download the version you need.
>>
>>
>> When you do select to download, it gives you v12.04. Even after rummaging
>> around not possible to see any other versions to download.
>>
>>
>> The help page talks about other versions. It's information implies that
>> 11.10 is the long-term release. But there appears to be nowhere to download
>> the long-term release. The importance of short-term releases became apparent
>> to users recently when, for example, they got shipwrecked with the short
>> term release of Ubuntu before the Unity overhaul. Had they stuck with the
>> long term release prior to that, they would not now be shipwrecked. Yes I am
>> speaking from experience. But what's the point of having a long-term release
>> if you don't make it clear to users that this is the most advisable version
>> to download and then point them to it?
>>
>>
>> The checksum info page contains info only about 11.10 checksums. But the
>> site downloads 12.04.
>>
>>
>> The checksum and torrent additions to the download process have really
>> snarled things up for idiot users - sorry, you can't say that, can you?
>> It's snarled things up for 'dummies'. No, you can't say that either, can
>> you? Just because you are not an experienced command-line user,
>> administrator or nerd hobbyist, that doesn't make you a dummy. But you are
>> likely to have plenty else to do: looking after kids, working over-time,
>> fixing the car, fending off zombies. So the install process requires that
>> you learn about torrent clients and command lines and checksums. That's the
>> last thing I need to do. That's eliminated most of the population of the
>> planet as potential users straight off. Point and click, man. What's with
>> all these complications?
>>
>>
>> So anyway. What I needed: a guarantee that I've got a version that will
>> work with the target machine: PIII, 256Mb; a long term release version; and
>> on the advice of this website, a checksummed version. What I got: likelihood
>> the version I've got doesn't work with my machine, a short term release
>> version, and no checksum validation.
>>
>>
>> On top of all that, I'm dizzy from going back and forth and round the
>> website for the information I need to perform this simplest of operations:
>> downloading a version to install.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello Mark,
>>
>> I'm sorry your experience with downloading Lubuntu has not been pleasant.
>> You can't download other versions of Ubuntu or Kubuntu off of their
>> websites, unless Googleing "ubuntu 11.10", "ubuntu 11.04", etc. The latest
>> long-term support release is Persistant (12.04 LTS, the LTS stands for
>> Long-Term Support). Thanks!
>>
>> In Christ,
>> Ryan
>>
>>