lubuntu font installer (just an idea)
Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset
jpxsat at gmail.com
Mon Jul 16 19:34:04 UTC 2012
2012/7/16 Phill Whiteside <PhillW at ubuntu.com>
> nice :)
>
> On 16 July 2012 18:10, Stephen Smally <eco.stefi at fastwebnet.it> wrote:
>
>> Il 16/07/2012 18:00, Stephen Smally ha scritto:
>>
>> Il 16/07/2012 16:19, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset ha scritto:
>>>
>>>> 2012/7/16 PCMan <pcman.tw at gmail.com <mailto:pcman.tw at gmail.com>>
>>>>
>>>> I really think that it's a good idea.
>>>> KDE supports this IIRC.
>>>> Installing a font in Linux should be easy and just involves copy &
>>>> paste or drag & drop
>>>> It's not difficult to implement at all.
>>>> For example, a user bought some commercial true type fonts for use
>>>> in Windows.
>>>> The fonts sit happily in C:\windows\fonts.
>>>> Someday he started using Lubuntu.
>>>> Then he needs to generate deb packages for each of them and submit
>>>> bug
>>>> reports in the tracker of lubuntu to have them packaged.
>>>> Then, he needs to wait for the next iteration of Lubuntu release to
>>>> get these packages.
>>>> If the fonts are not free fonts, there is no way to have them
>>>> packaged
>>>> by Lubuntu team.
>>>> So, packaging everything apparently does not work in this case.
>>>> Just having a tool to copy the *.ttf files to the font dir and calls
>>>> fc-cache update is enough.
>>>> The main UI can be simple, and the "sudo fc-cache" call can be
>>>> replaced with a policykit action, I think.
>>>> However we should only install the fonts to some restricted place
>>>> like
>>>> /usr/share/fonts/<our_own_**folder> and not mixed with others
>>>> installed
>>>> by the packaging system.
>>>>
>>>> Just my two cents.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Jonathan Marsden
>>>> <jmarsden at fastmail.fm <mailto:jmarsden at fastmail.fm>> wrote:
>>>> > Karl,
>>>> >
>>>> > On 07/15/2012 03:36 PM, Karl Anliot wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Lubuntu doesn't have an automatic way to install font files. I
>>>> >> noticed a user asking how to do this in lubuntu, he must have
>>>> had a
>>>> >> font he needed to use.
>>>> >
>>>> >> A new program could list fonts to remove, and install fonts from
>>>> >> font files, and launch a font viewer if the user wants to look
>>>> at a
>>>> >> font. Someone could code this?
>>>> >
>>>> > Perhaps, but is there a good reason to do so? Fonts can and
>>>> (IMO)
>>>> > should be packaged, just like other installable software. They
>>>> can then
>>>> > be installed using existing package management tools (dpkg,
>>>> apt-get,
>>>> > synaptic, lsc, software center, ...), and updated automatically
>>>> that way
>>>> > as needed.
>>>> >
>>>> > Creating and maintaining a new "special" application just to
>>>> install
>>>> > fonts does not seem to me to have significant benefits, when
>>>> packages
>>>> > and all their associated software tools and infrastructure
>>>> already exist.
>>>> >
>>>> > Worst case, if a user is willing to "go around" the package
>>>> management
>>>> > system to install an unpackaged font, they can use pcmanfm or any
>>>> other
>>>> > file management tool to create a directory under
>>>> > /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ , copy their *.ttf files in there, and
>>>> then run
>>>> >
>>>> > sudo fc-cache -f -v
>>>> >
>>>> > This is the exact same approach described for Ubuntu at
>>>> >
>>>> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts
>>>> >
>>>> > As far as I can see, Lubuntu is no better and no worse than
>>>> Ubuntu in
>>>> > this respect. When a user asks how to install an unpackaged
>>>> font, and
>>>> > they are unwilling to package it, I suggest we can direct them to
>>>> that
>>>> > wiki page.
>>>> >
>>>> > Jonathan
>>>> >
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>>>>
>>>> Some time ago I went through the problem of installing fonts myself,
>>>> since in my office I'm migrating (with quite succes I must say)
>>>> everybody to Lubuntu. The problem was that I knew where to place fonts
>>>> to install them, but for newbies or average users it was a pain.
>>>> If I understand right, some functionality could be implemented within
>>>> pcmanfm to right click font files and install them? This would be a
>>>> great behaviour!!
>>>>
>>>> -- jpxsat
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> What about a tiny app that open a font and ask for installation (and
>>> perhaps show a preview)?
>>> Maybe i will mockup something...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Mockup!
>> http://imagebin.org/index.php?**mode=image&id=221005<http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=221005>
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Quite Nice indeed!!
How about installing more than one font at a time? We will be able to
select more than one file and install them all at once?
Keep making good work Stephen! I can't wait to see that app working :D !
-- jpxsat
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