[Lubuntu-desktop] LSC and Dependencies Talk

Chris cyber.druif at gmail.com
Mon Jan 16 12:43:20 UTC 2012

Hello everyone,

Firstly the discussion at hand: the MAIN reason why LSC was created is
because USC is VERY heavyweight. While still having a similar simplified
interface for installing software, it boots a lot faster. Secondly is
Synaptic not the most intuitive way to install software. Showing a lot of
technical (libs etc) between some of the packages you might want to
install, LSC solves this by only showing the packages one would want to
install and with a preview readily available. So it's not a means to only
show packages "designed" for Lubuntu afaik.

Thirdly this is a mainly a discussion in how LSC *could* or *should*
preform, not about the wiki. When you guys have made a decision on what
should be put on the wiki, please cc the wiki list. I could have the wiki
group make a page about installing software in Lubuntu, referring to
packages that depend on libs not included by default and what the impact
could be, but their might already be a page about that on the "main" wiki
which we could refer to.

ACTION WIKI: find a page on the wiki about installing software not aimed at
a certain DE. E.g. installing ktouch inside Lubuntu, hopefully with system
impact. If that page doesn't exists create one. Please reply if there isn't
a page on the wiki before creating a new page. This is to keep me

With metta, Chris

P.S.: Ali, you used the "old" lubuntu list, which will be deprecated
shortly. I've cc'd the new list.

On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 12:36, PCMan <pcman.tw at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 3:49 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA <amjjawad at gmail.com>wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>> Before I reply to this post:
>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11613963&postcount=252
>> I thought it's better to start such a discussion over here so that I
>> understand better and we make it clear to everyone what is really going on.
>> As far as I have learned so far and I could be wrong, the Dependencies
>> Talk on a Low Resources System where usually Lubuntu is installed, is more
>> about Space Issue than Loaded Files on RAM issue.
>> I don't have a document or something that confirm that but I do know for
>> sure that as long as nothing will be loaded in RAM, the performance won't
>> be affected.
>> I've come across MANY questions from users like: "This app has lots of
>> dependencies, can I install it on Lubuntu? will that slow my system down??"
>> For me, I can easily reply that post saying: "It's more about space
>> issues than memory consuming issue + if you want, you can use the terminal
>> for Synaptic."
> This is not necessarily true. Almost always, we add dependencies because
> the program needs them at "runtime".
> Most of time, these deps, especially the libraries, will be loaded at
> runtime as well.
> The most important issue is how much RAM is needed by programs constantly
> running throughout the whole desktop session.
> (web browser, panel, file manager, desktop manager, session manager, other
> dbus services...)
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