Conducting Lubuntu team business in public (was: Re: Disabling lightdm guest login )

Phill Whiteside PhillW at
Mon Apr 30 04:59:34 UTC 2012

Hi Jonathon,

indeed, in any family there will dis-agreements. As you point out, these
cases are specifically covered in the CoC. How else do we get new ideas?

"There is more than one way to skin a cat", as the old saying goes [1].
Discussing their respective merits is important (although the cats used for
testing, may disagree!)  :)



On 30 April 2012 10:19, Jonathan Marsden <jmarsden at> wrote:

> On 04/29/2012 05:20 PM, Chris Druif wrote:
> > Also it doesn't look "professional" when the "experts" are
> > disagreeing in public. Just my thoughts.
> On the contrary, I'd suggest that a well run open source community
> consciously and deliberately conducts as much of its business as
> possible openly -- "in public".  The less that we feel a need to hide
> concerning how we operate, the more transparent we can be, the better.
> For more on this as it relates to open source software projects, note
> that Chapter 2 of the book "Producing Open Source Software" by Karl
> Fogel includes a section titled "Avoid Private Discussions" that is very
> relevant.  See , and in particular see
> .
> Of course, that does not mean we should be impolite or call each other
> names in public!  Well-reasoned polite disagreement about relevant
> operational and technical matters within the team seems to me to be
> entirely reasonable and professional.
> Since we only have one mailing list, and have a community that is spread
> over many time zones, this one list is where that kind of team-internal
> discussion is most likely to happen.  If the volume of such traffic
> becomes so large that it impedes use of the list for user questions and
> issues, we should of course create a new (but still open, public,
> archived) list to separate it out, as a matter of convenience and
> efficiency.
> Incidentally, in real face to face life, I have been known to disagree
> with my boss at work sometimes... is that "unprofessional" of me?  I
> think much depends on *how* I disagree -- and I submit that the same is
> true online for the Lubuntu community.  If you ever feel I have been
> rude to, or personally attacked, anyone in the Lubuntu community, please
> do "call me out" on that.  I've signed the Code of Conduct, and I do my
> best to operate within it in the Ubuntu community.
> Jonathan
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