apt-get upgrade doesn't upgrade the Kernel but dist-upgrade does

Ali Linx (amjjawad) amjjawad at gmail.com
Fri Apr 27 21:25:59 UTC 2012


You don't need to worry about that, my good friend and our great tester :D



On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 1:21 AM, Lance <lbsolost at yahoo.com> wrote:

> You can expect me to forget a great deal more in the future. I've been
> diagnosed with dementia. That said there is no absolute way to know how
> quickly I'll decline ;^)
>
>
> Lance
>
> --- On *Fri, 4/27/12, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjjawad at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjjawad at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: apt-get upgrade doesn't upgrade the Kernel but dist-upgrade
> does
> To: "Lance" <lbsolost at yahoo.com>
>
> Cc: "lubuntu user list" <lubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Date: Friday, April 27, 2012, 3:21 PM
>
>
> You forgot to reply to all, Lance :D
>
> Update Manager, the GUI application/tool, will do these three functions:
> 1- sudo apt-get update
> 2- sudo apt-get upgrade
> 3- sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
>
> I'm NOT talking here about the Update Manager, I'm talking about Terminal
> Commands that you run to do a specific task. Having that said, from
> experience, dist-upgrade is the only command that can upgrade my Kernel.
>
> On my Test PC, I upgraded the Kernel form 3.2.0-21-generic >>
> 3.2.0-24-generic and that has been done via dist-upgrade because apt-get
> upgrade did NOT upgrade the Kernel :)
>
> I did not say it will upgrade to the latest distro, I said it will upgrade
> the kernel.
>
> By the way, NOT only Kernels, some packages can't be upgraded unless you
> run dist-upgrade :)
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Lance <lbsolost at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=lbsolost@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
> I'd think that should not be the case. I've just been using update-manager
> since Beta 2 (to test it for bugs) and I'm up to 3.2.0-24 w/o ever having
> to use apt-get dist-upgrade.
>
> That said "dist-upgrade" is generally misunderstood, that is many still
> believe that it will upgrade to the latest distro but that's hardly true
> unless one has changed the software sources.
>
> Lance
>
> --- On *Fri, 4/27/12, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjjawad at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=amjjawad@gmail.com>
> >* wrote:
>
>
> From: Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjjawad at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=amjjawad@gmail.com>
> >
> Subject: Re: apt-get upgrade doesn't upgrade the Kernel but dist-upgrade
> does
> To: "Michael Basse" <ubuntu at alpha-unix.de<http://mc/compose?to=ubuntu@alpha-unix.de>
> >
> Cc: "lubuntu user list" <lubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com<http://mc/compose?to=lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
> >
> Date: Friday, April 27, 2012, 1:16 PM
>
>
> Hi again, Michael and thanks for your reply :)
>
> Yes indeed, I know it's not a bug but we had a discussion (myself and
> other members) on the Forum and Facebook Group of Lubuntu (
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/lubuntu.official/) about upgrading a Beta
> Version to a Stable Version but just doing:
> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
>
> I was telling them you also need to do: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
> in order to get the latest kernel in the repositories.
>
> So, I'm correct about dist-upgrade :)
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Michael Basse <ubuntu at alpha-unix.de<http://mc/compose?to=ubuntu@alpha-unix.de>
> > wrote:
>
> Hi,
> its not a bug its a feature. see also man apt-get
>
> upgrade will only upgrade packages if other packages are not changed
> because of that. When doing a kernel-upgrade, the metapackge will pull
> in a new package (the kernel). So another package will be changed and
> for that there is dist-upgrade.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Michael
>
> Am 27.04.2012 18:45, schrieb Ali Linx (amjjawad):
> > Hi,
> >
> > http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11873556&postcount=227
> >
> > That Sub-Forum got closed now because 12.04 is released.
> > I'd like to continue that discussion over here.
> >
> > I'm now sitting with 3 machines, my main laptop and two test machines
> > (laptop and PC).
> > On my Test machines, I'm running Lubuntu 12.04 right now which is
> upgraded
> > from Lubuntu 12.04 Beta2.
> >
> > I just confirmed and made sure that my note on the above link is true.
> > "sudo apt-get upgrade" will never update my Kernel unless I do "sudo
> > apt-get dist-upgrade".
> >
> > I just need one person to confirm that :)
> >
> > I'm upgrading the Kernel right one on my test PC from 3.2.0-21 to
> 3.2.0.24
> > by using "dist-upgrade".
> >
> > On my test laptop, I have done that already last night following the same
> > approach because, again, apt-get upgrade never upgrade my kernel.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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