<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"> <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"> <style></style> </head> <body lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word"> <div class="WordSection1"> <p class="MsoNormal">I did nothing – so this is entirely client side on your end. Your browser, your Internet provider, nothing on our end.<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal">Sounds like the issue is a transient issue specific to your machines that is not able to be replicated by anyone else.<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal">Thomas<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"> <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Fritz Hudnut <este.el.paz@gmail.com> <br> <b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 18, 2022 10:38<br> <b>To:</b> Thomas Ward <teward@thomas-ward.net><br> <b>Cc:</b> lubuntu-devel <lubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [lubuntu-devel] Lubuntu-devel Digest, Vol 73, Issue 2<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">@Thomas W:<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">So this morning I'm booted in Tumbleweed and I saw the thread on the package dependency issue posted by Neblaz and clicking on the link . . . actually opened into the thread!!!!<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">Don't know if this has anything to do with my side, same browser . . . same large number of tabs open . . . OR whether something was adjusted on the sending side? I'll be back to Lu in a few days, to check if it's happening just in Lubuntu . . . .<o:p></o:p></p> </div> </div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 3:08 PM Thomas Ward <<a href="mailto:teward@thomas-ward.net">teward@thomas-ward.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Since the issue also affects <a href="http://lubuntu.me" target="_blank"> lubuntu.me</a>, then that suggests a much *wider* problem with your internet or network. Since we've ruled out everything from console logs, the only thing left to us to assume is your ISP or network you're connecting to is doing some kind of filtration, especially if it's hitting *multiple* sites (<a href="http://lubuntu.me" target="_blank">lubuntu.me</a> and <a href="http://discourse.lubuntu.me" target="_blank">discourse.lubuntu.me</a> do NOT run on the same infrastructure nor even the same region or datacenters, nor even the same setup of the underlying system (bare metal + LXD for discourse, singular VM for <a href="http://lubuntu.me" target="_blank">lubuntu.me</a>).<br> <br> Because of the issues being more than just one site and more than one component, this suggests your ISP is doing something. You wouldn't happen to live in a middle eastern country, or Russia, or China, would you? (countries that enforce country-level ISP blocks and filtration that we can't do anything about).<br> <br> <br> Thomas<br> <br> <o:p></o:p></p> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">On 7/17/22 15:45, Fritz Hudnut wrote:<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> <div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">Thomas and Ian:<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">Well, since I intermittently can't connect to Discourse I had no option but to post here about it. Since nothing can be done then there would be no point to making a bug report, especially if I'm the only person that this is happening to, etc. But, perhaps there are others, who hitting the white screen just move on to other options??<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">As I said, I'm not fiddling with anything on my end. More often than not if I get a digest email from Discourse if I click on a link it goes to a blank page. And sometimes if I try to get to Lu.me it's the same thing. It's only because I'm a long time Lu user that I bother to report what is happening . . . I'm running "kinetic" right now, so I reported it to devel list serve. I guess I could post about it on regular lu users list serve . . . but I'd still be reporting an issue which apparently doesn't exist???<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">Please ignore, nothing to see here, I'm shuffling along, etc.<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">F<o:p></o:p></p> </div> </div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 10:39 AM Thomas Ward <<a href="mailto:teward@thomas-ward.net" target="_blank">teward@thomas-ward.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"> <div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">The only thing I can think of is some tyoe of transparent internet filtering on your end. There's no use in posting that you alone have this problem on the lububtu-devel list though, as theres nothing that I or anyone else can do to really debug.<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">You could attempt to use a VPN to bypass any country restrictions and see if you can access the site, but this does not belong on lubuntu-devel.<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div id="gmail-m_8995716959586492747gmail-m_-2479162938095839314composer_signature"> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#575757">Sent from my Galaxy<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">-------- Original message --------<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">From: Fritz Hudnut <<a href="mailto:este.el.paz@gmail.com" target="_blank">este.el.paz@gmail.com</a>> <o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">Date: 7/17/22 13:19 (GMT-05:00) <o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">To: Thomas Ward <<a href="mailto:teward@thomas-ward.net" target="_blank">teward@thomas-ward.net</a>> <o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">Cc: lubuntu-devel <<a href="mailto:lubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">lubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> <o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">Subject: Re: [lubuntu-devel] Lubuntu-devel Digest, Vol 73, Issue 2 <o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">Thomas, buddy . . . .<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">We've had this conversation, actually now numerous times . . . and I've sent the console logs previously, which most recently you said were "inconclusive."????<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">I'm more or less always in FF, this morning I was in Lubuntu kinetic . . . and then over in Gecko . . . . It's "non-critical" but it seems to keep happening. I'm not fiddling with stuff in the browser . . . .<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">I guess then the question is, "Why am I being singled out for this infinite whiteness?" "Why me?" : - 0<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">F<o:p></o:p></p> </div> </div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 10:01 AM Thomas Ward <<a href="mailto:teward@thomas-ward.net" target="_blank">teward@thomas-ward.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"> <div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">Without more details such as your web browser console logs and such its impossible to debug.<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">Most users don't have this issue, and there is no obvious reason you would be having this issue from the sysadmin side of things. As stated, we need more info such as your console logs for your browser (in the browser's dev tools). Also knowing what browser you use, what OS you are on, and any plugins you are using in your browser are important tidbits too.<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div id="gmail-m_8995716959586492747gmail-m_-2479162938095839314gmail-m_7726176128873490169composer_signature"> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#575757">Sent from my Galaxy<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">-------- Original message --------<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">From: Fritz Hudnut <<a href="mailto:este.el.paz@gmail.com" target="_blank">este.el.paz@gmail.com</a>> <o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">Date: 7/17/22 12:32 (GMT-05:00) <o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">To: lubuntu-devel <<a href="mailto:lubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">lubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> <o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">Subject: Re: [lubuntu-devel] Lubuntu-devel Digest, Vol 73, Issue 2 <o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <div> <div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"> top posting:<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">So, in the apport bug report on LP there was another user experiencing the same issue and he linked a thread on the Discourse forum about it. I posted back, saying I can't often get to the forum, because it loads to a blank page . . . .<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">This morning I tried to click on his link . . . and . . . again it loads to a crisp white page. Recurring issue, again recurring??<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">F<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br> Simon Q:<br> <br> Running Lu Kinetic this morning, running apt dist-upgrade hits error . . .<br> bug #1981898 filed automatically, brings error:<br> <br> [CODE] Errors were encountered while processing:<br> /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-AquuzF/050-libfm-qt11_1.1.0-1_amd64.deb<br> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) [/CODE]<br> <br> F<br> <br> <o:p></o:p></p> </blockquote> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p> </div> <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"> <p class="MsoNormal">********************************************<o:p></o:p></p> </blockquote> </div> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote> </div> </blockquote> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> </blockquote> </div> </div> </body> </html>