<div dir="ltr">20.10 stuff should go to "devel" list rather than open Lu-users list . . . .<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 11:13 AM James <<a href="mailto:bjlockie@lockie.ca">bjlockie@lockie.ca</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Got the SG2 disk out and booted into TW to get the
os-prober going to fix grub . . . something in ubuntu for the
last year has been breaking grub on apt upgrades . . . there
is a bug report on it . . . devs seem to be "stuck" on a fix,
but it is "irritating" to have to "repair grub" each time
after running apt as I did yesterday with Lu 20.10.</div>
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<div>OK, the good news is that after that upgrade in Lu
yesterday the boot time seemed a little faster, and the log in
password wasn't exactly "zippy" but it did at least "respond"
after one click . . . but there was a delay. I ran the
analyze blame command and in Lu it brought back a bunch of
lines, I copied the top 25 or so . . . but again these times
were an improvement from the pre- 300 package upgrade from
yesterday.</div>
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<div>"systemd-analyze blame<br>
23.068s man-db.service
><br>
16.522s NetworkManager-wait-online.service
><br>
12.036s udisks2.service
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11.315s snapd.service
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9.028s networkd-dispatcher.service
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8.032s dev-sdc7.device
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6.735s accounts-daemon.service
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6.267s systemd-journal-flush.service
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5.326s dev-loop0.device
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5.253s polkit.service
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5.061s NetworkManager.service
><br>
5.057s avahi-daemon.service
><br>
5.054s bluetooth.service
><br>
5.026s dundee.service
><br>
4.989s ofono.service
><br>
4.973s wpa_supplicant.service
><br>
4.973s systemd-logind.service
><br>
4.101s ModemManager.service
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3.919s dev-loop2.device
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3.918s dev-loop1.device
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3.860s dev-loop4.device
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3.849s dev-loop5.device
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3.843s dev-loop3.device
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3.765s dev-loop7.device
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3.742s dev-loop6.device
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3.552s gpu-manager.service
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3.548s logrotate.service
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2.550s systemd-udevd.service
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1.709s rsyslog.service
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1.545s grub-initrd-fallback.service
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1.410s apport.service
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1.373s grub-common.service
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1.219s systemd-resolved.service
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1.057s colord.service
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1.041s
systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-598d1ebe\x2d6ad9\x2d4491\x2db95a\x2><br>
992ms apparmor.service
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926ms upower.service
><br>
881ms systemd-modules-load.service
><br>
757ms <a href="mailto:systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by%5Cx2duuid-67E3%5Cx2d17ED.service" target="_blank">systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-67E3\x2d17ED.service</a>
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675ms snapd.seeded.service
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663ms systemd-sysusers.service
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563ms keyboard-setup.service
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551ms systemd-journald.service "</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 7:57
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<div>Seems like running Lu apt yesterday showing some "grub"
packages again wiped grub . . . ??? So cold booting only
provided U-MATE . . . actually doesn't seem any faster
than the Lu option . . . .</div>
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<div>Since they both are 20.10 I ran what I thought is your
suggested command . . . once after logging in and
launching FF . . . then half an hour later after going
thru emails and social media stuff . . . got the same
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<div>"$ systemd-analyze blame<br>
Bootup is not yet finished
(org.freedesktop.systemd1.Manager.FinishTimestampMonotonic=0).<br>
Please try again later.<br>
Hint: Use 'systemctl list-jobs' to see active jobs"</div>
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<div>When I get grub straightened out I'll try it in Lu to
see what that provides . . . .<br>
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7:05 PM James Lockie <<a href="mailto:bjlockie@lockie.ca" target="_blank">bjlockie@lockie.ca</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Blame will list all the processes so
you can see what is slow. </div>
<div dir="auto">I had a problem with alsa timing out
on something. </div>
<div dir="auto">I forget the fix (it might have gone
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<div dir="ltr">Alrighty . . . well I'll try to
run that command when I get back to my Lu
install . . . .</div>
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Aug 16, 2020 at 5:30 PM James Lockie <<a href="mailto:bjlockie@lockie.ca" target="_blank">bjlockie@lockie.ca</a>>
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<div dir="auto">That blame command
will print the times for the boot. </div>
<div dir="auto">Maybe try the auto
login. </div>
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<div>OK, well thanks for the
reply . . . after I posted
that email I ran "apt" and
there were roughly "300"
packages to update, but I
don't know if "systemd"
was in there or not . . .
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<div>Anything to "monitor"
in this regard?? It is
much slower to get to log
in window and then really
slow getting from there
into GUI . . . .</div>
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<div dir="auto">systemd-analyze
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16, 2020
18:49:10 Fritz
Hudnut <<a href="mailto:este.el.paz@gmail.com" target="_blank">este.el.paz@gmail.com</a>>
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<div>Posting
here in case
the helm is
manned . . .
in comparison
to my other
linux installs
and more
basically in
comparison to
my U-MATE
20.10 install
. . . the Lu
boot time is
"slower" to
run through
what must be
the "dmesg"
data . . .
which it says
is "system
check" . . .
and possibly
could be
"cancelled" .
. . might save
some time . .
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<div>But, more
of a problem
is when the
log in window
shows and I
type my
password and
hit return . .
. nothing
happens . . .
and I wind up
hitting return
key several
times before
the system
decides to
load the
desktop????</div>
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<div>It's
happened
enough times
that I am now
taking time
too report the
problem here.</div>
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<div>F<br>
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