<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)">I update my iMac G7450 PPC almost everyday. Load synaptic, then reload, then mark and apply updates; then run software update and then reboot.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)"> </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)">Have been doing this for > a month and my Lu16.04 always works fine except no sound ;-{</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)"> </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)">but if you need some PPC testing help on what is applied thru the normal channel, then i can help on that. I am unwilling to try beta .iso's or otherwise disable a happy machine, but other than that i can try.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)"> </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)">Let me know where bug reports are filed so i can scan them.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)">thanx. </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On 24 July 2016 at 14:00, <<a href="mailto:lubuntu-devel-request@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">lubuntu-devel-request@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send Lubuntu-devel mailing list submissions to <a href="mailto:lubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">lubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-devel" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-devel</a> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to <a href="mailto:lubuntu-devel-request@lists.ubuntu.com">lubuntu-devel-request@lists.ubuntu.com</a> You can reach the person managing the list at <a href="mailto:lubuntu-devel-owner@lists.ubuntu.com">lubuntu-devel-owner@lists.ubuntu.com</a> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Lubuntu-devel digest..." 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Re: State of PPC (Fritz Hudnut) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 07:48:32 -0700 From: Fritz Hudnut <<a href="mailto:este.el.paz@gmail.com">este.el.paz@gmail.com</a>> To: Walter Lapchynski <<a href="mailto:wxl@ubuntu.com">wxl@ubuntu.com</a>> Cc: lubuntu-devel <<a href="mailto:lubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">lubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a>>, Simon Quigley <<a href="mailto:tsimonq2@ubuntu.com">tsimonq2@ubuntu.com</a>>, lubuntu user list <<a href="mailto:lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Subject: Re: [lubuntu-devel] State of PPC Message-ID: <CAG62idA5-2+iqfMbdaOD5NYGdjiPdV-iAQny1nFL9o1nf3uv=<a href="mailto:g@mail.gmail.com">g@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Walter Lapchynski <<a href="mailto:wxl@ubuntu.com">wxl@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: > My estimation of things is that Lubuntu on PPC mostly works, given a few > caveats. All we need to do to release PPC is for all of the test cases to > be completed successfully (regardless of whether or not there are bugs) and > that marked on the QA tracker for the final testing of each milestone. If > we don't have that done, Canonical will not let us release it. > > PPC was what brought me originally to Lubuntu, so there's a special place > for it in my heart. Having an OS make that old hardware work was very > refreshing and introduced me to the real power and mission of Lubuntu. > > However, I haven't ran PPC in a long, long time. That being said, I'm not > of much help. We rely on the community of users to help out. When I don't > see testing happening in the community, it makes me think that I'm not the > only one that's neglected their PPC machines. > @wxl: I also came to linux in hopes of keeping what were perfectly adequate computers viable until they actually broke, some of which have and others are still yet running. One problem for my own machines is that they have started to fall below the system requirements, either for RAM or CPU, even for Lubuntu--which reduces the practicality of using them for work a day computers. However, when I installed Lu 14 LTS on several of my computers there were "glitches" and I thought "I won't be upgrading after this" . . . but Lu 16 LTS has actually run better than 14 on both of my PPC computers. Would I need to upgrade them again, probably not if support is available for kernel and browser for a few years more. And, agreed, a team of "one" is not really a team, it shouldn't fall to wxl to do everything he can to keep PPC going for Lubuntu. In terms of releasing Lu 16 for PPC I would concur that it is for all intents and purposes, fine. I posted here about the jaggy graphics of window dragging, that has been around since 14.04 . . . otherwise, generally good from my somewhat limited use of it on my iBook G4. I'm taking time to mention again that on the Apple Hardware User forum, a small, mostly ignored and Siberia-like sub-forum on the Ubuntu User forums . . . there are a lot of folks in Europe now coming to the forum to get help with there AmigaOne machines, that use the motorola processor . . . and so there could be new enthusiasm for PPC coming to Lubuntu. What I can do in the coming **weeks** is to try to run through some of the QA tests on my iBook G4 for the installed Lubuntu 16.06 system. Also, with wxl's permission I could re-post his email here about the "State of PPC" on the apple user sub-forum, and see if that will garner any response(s)??? At least as far as getting some testing on the QA for what might be the last hurrah for PPC and Lubuntu . . . . F -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Any support you can drum up there would be appreciated. > @wxl: OK, I posted a request for Lubuntu PPC testers on the Apple User forum . . . sans your quoted material . . . . I'll see if that stirs up anything . . . in a "formal" sense of the word. In the meanwhile I visited the QA tracker, and the report that "zero" testing has been done is not entirely accurate, as it looks like "erhard-f" filed some bug reports and passed some aspect of Lubuntu . . . which in comparison to the other options is not that much different . . . . Looking around, the only Lubuntu Xenial QA slot that is still "testing" is now, the "daily" other "final" and the ".1" have been "archived." Looking somewhere else the Lubuntu PPC options have a line strike through them . . . so technically the only tests left to be done are the "daily" iso??? So, I'm typing this in my iBook G4, running Lu 16.04, other than the fan blowing all of the time it has to think, it's fine--ready for primetime in PPC-land. My new phone company, the one that took over Verizon landline has my DSL throttled down to less than 2 MB/sec . . . I don't have time to play with downloading a daily, my install went well with the beta . . . for sure I mentioned this at various junctures . . . doesn't seem like there is any test to do for the beta . . . updated/upgraded as of today??? I vote for kicking it out and see how many people download the PPC iso . . . it's kind of wimpy to have it be this close to release, but then, not . . . . Hopefully there will be some boost from the sub-forum . . . . F -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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