<div dir="ltr"><div><div>I think 5 mins is ample time.... A user cannot be expected to hang around for ever! I do caution that there can be a delay when using low ram with dpkg, which can look like a system hang. </div>Regards, </div>Phill. </div><div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On 13 March 2016 at 10:36, Nio Wiklund <<a href="mailto:nio.wiklund@gmail.com" target="_blank">nio.wiklund@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Henk and other Lubuntu users, who want to test installing with low RAM, I see what you mean. I was testing last night with my Toshiba with Intel i5. It is usually working fast, Lubuntu can be completely installed within a couple of minutes. But when I approached the low RAM limit, I had to wait for 3-4 minutes for the first Ubiquity window to appear. Below the limit, I did not even get any wallpaper after 6 minutes, so I decided that it did not work. I attached a modified spreadsheet with some test results from last night. I found a difference: Lubuntu 14.04.1 LTS desktop i386 can be installed with 224 MB RAM Lubuntu Xenial daily desktop i386 can be installed with 256 MB RAM Maybe we should state a limit: Select 'Install Lubuntu' and set the boot option mem=xxxM and press the Enter key. If the first window of the installer does not appear within 5 minutes, we can consider that there is too low RAM for the installer to work. Maybe we should suggest more patience, for example 10 minutes. What do *you* think? Best regards Nio<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"> Den 2016-03-13 kl. 10:53, skrev Henk Terhell: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> I have some difficulty understanding what the limit is for 'stop working'. I experienced very long processing of the DVD with mem=224M and I finally stopped it manually. But it may have succeeded with enough patience (or until the DVD drive is crashing!). Henk Op 2016-03-12 om 21:37 schreef Nio Wiklund: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hi Phill and everybody else, Please look at the attached spreadsheet and suggest improvements :-) Best regards Nio Den 2016-03-11 kl. 20:35, skrev Phill. Whiteside: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hi Nio, we have until 22nd March before B2 testing, so if you'd be so kind as to draft up some instructions I'll set up a mini-page as a spreadsheet so volunteers can record results. I think such a thing will also be invaluable as we move to wards dual running with LXQt so we have a common set of benchmarks to test against. Many thanks, Phill. On 11 March 2016 at 18:41, Nio Wiklund <<a href="mailto:nio.wiklund@gmail.com" target="_blank">nio.wiklund@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:nio.wiklund@gmail.com" target="_blank">nio.wiklund@gmail.com</a>>> wrote: Hi Phill, The kernel has increased in size and it needs more RAM than before. Maybe systemd also means that Lubuntu needs more RAM than before. In order to know the exact figures, I think someone really needs to test it (which does take time to perform). I am quite busy nowadays. Maybe we can ask someone (else) to do it. I can help by describing how to do it (and to get some kind of comparison between Xenial and Trusty). Best regards Nio Den 2016-03-11 kl. 18:24, skrev Phill. Whiteside: Thanks Nio, I've prepped up the +1 page 'Advanced Methods' page for our upcoming 16.04 LTS [1]. From my reading of the page, it is mainly to see if there has been further 'RAM creep' for the minimum required from 14.04 to 16.04. Comments from you (and everyone else) greatly appreciated. Regards, Phill. 1. <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/AdvancedMethods+1" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/AdvancedMethods+1</a> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </div></div> -- Lubuntu-devel mailing list <a href="mailto:Lubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">Lubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-devel" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-devel</a> </blockquote></div> </div>