[lubuntu-devel] Lubuntu-devel Digest, Vol 73, Issue 2

Fritz Hudnut este.el.paz at gmail.com
Sun Jul 17 22:36:21 UTC 2022


U . . . S . . . of A . . . .  I was on Spectrum when this was happening
before, but I just switched over to Frontier FIOS.  No proxies, no VPNs,
etc.  Today or yesterday I had no problem with Lu.me, only Discourse; I was
speaking historically, and in that history I have sent console browser logs
two times . . . to varying levels of response, but neither time was there
shown anything that you found definitive.

I'm not going to lose any sleep over this problem, so many other things to
worry about, like the rogue state malign players of the world doing
dastardly things . . . etc.  The rise of fascism in our democracy--so much
more to worry about.



On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 3:08 PM Thomas Ward <teward at thomas-ward.net> wrote:

> Since the issue also affects lubuntu.me, then that suggests a much
> *wider* problem with your internet or network.  Since we've ruled out
> everything from console logs, the only thing left to us to assume is your
> ISP or network you're connecting to is doing some kind of filtration,
> especially if it's hitting *multiple* sites (lubuntu.me and
> discourse.lubuntu.me do NOT run on the same infrastructure nor even the
> same region or datacenters, nor even the same setup of the underlying
> system (bare metal + LXD for discourse, singular VM for lubuntu.me).
>
> Because of the issues being more than just one site and more than one
> component, this suggests your ISP is doing something.  You wouldn't happen
> to live in a middle eastern country, or Russia, or China, would you?
> (countries that enforce country-level ISP blocks and filtration that we
> can't do anything about).
>
>
> Thomas
>
>
> On 7/17/22 15:45, Fritz Hudnut wrote:
>
> Thomas and Ian:
>
> Well, since I intermittently can't connect to Discourse I had no option
> but to post here about it.  Since nothing can be done then there would be
> no point to making a bug report, especially if I'm the only person that
> this is happening to, etc.  But, perhaps there are others, who hitting the
> white screen just move on to other options??
>
> As I said, I'm not fiddling with anything on my end.  More often than not
> if I get a digest email from Discourse if I click on a link it goes to a
> blank page.  And sometimes if I try to get to Lu.me it's the same thing.
> It's only because I'm a long time Lu user that I bother to report what is
> happening . . . I'm running "kinetic" right now, so I reported it to devel
> list serve.  I guess I could post about it on regular lu users list serve .
> . . but I'd still be reporting an issue which apparently doesn't exist???
>
> Please ignore, nothing to see here, I'm shuffling along, etc.
>
> F
>
> On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 10:39 AM Thomas Ward <teward at thomas-ward.net>
> wrote:
>
>> The only thing I can think of is some tyoe of transparent internet
>> filtering on your end.  There's no use in posting that you alone have this
>> problem on the lububtu-devel list though, as theres nothing that I or
>> anyone else can do to really debug.
>>
>> You could attempt to use a VPN to bypass any country restrictions and see
>> if you can access the site, but this does not belong on lubuntu-devel.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Galaxy
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Fritz Hudnut <este.el.paz at gmail.com>
>> Date: 7/17/22 13:19 (GMT-05:00)
>> To: Thomas Ward <teward at thomas-ward.net>
>> Cc: lubuntu-devel <lubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Subject: Re: [lubuntu-devel] Lubuntu-devel Digest, Vol 73, Issue 2
>>
>> Thomas, buddy . . . .
>>
>> We've had this conversation, actually now numerous times . . . and I've
>> sent the console logs previously, which most recently you said were
>> "inconclusive."????
>>
>> I'm more or less always in FF, this morning I was in Lubuntu kinetic . .
>> . and then over in Gecko . . . .  It's "non-critical" but it seems to keep
>> happening.  I'm not fiddling with stuff in the browser . . . .
>>
>> I guess then the question is, "Why am I being singled out for this
>> infinite whiteness?"  "Why me?"  : - 0
>>
>> F
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 10:01 AM Thomas Ward <teward at thomas-ward.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Without more details such as your web browser console logs and such its
>>> impossible to debug.
>>>
>>> Most users don't have this issue, and there is no obvious reason you
>>> would be having this issue from the sysadmin side of things.  As stated, we
>>> need more info such as your console logs for your browser (in the browser's
>>> dev tools).  Also knowing what browser you use, what OS you are on, and any
>>> plugins you are using in your browser are important tidbits too.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my Galaxy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: Fritz Hudnut <este.el.paz at gmail.com>
>>> Date: 7/17/22 12:32 (GMT-05:00)
>>> To: lubuntu-devel <lubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [lubuntu-devel] Lubuntu-devel Digest, Vol 73, Issue 2
>>>
>>>  top posting:
>>>
>>> So, in the apport bug report on LP there was another user experiencing
>>> the same issue and he linked a thread on the Discourse forum about it.  I
>>> posted back, saying I can't often get to the forum, because it loads to a
>>> blank page . . . .
>>>
>>> This morning I tried to click on his link . . . and . . . again it loads
>>> to a crisp white page.  Recurring issue, again recurring??
>>>
>>> F
>>>
>>>
>>>> Simon Q:
>>>>
>>>> Running Lu Kinetic this morning, running apt dist-upgrade hits error .
>>>> . .
>>>> bug #1981898  filed automatically, brings error:
>>>>
>>>> [CODE] Errors were encountered while processing:
>>>>  /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-AquuzF/050-libfm-qt11_1.1.0-1_amd64.deb
>>>> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) [/CODE]
>>>>
>>>> F
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>> ********************************************
>>>>
>>>
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