[lubuntu-devel] Lubuntu Next Default Applications

[Simon Quigley]

In this email I'm responding to both Henk and Alf.

On 7/6/17 5:45 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:
> Simon, my immediate reactions are inline in italic. Maybe I collect some
> more observations at a later stage.

Ok, feel free to let me know if you have any more thoughts in the future.

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>>  * Language selection: https://is.gd/5HQhzd
>>    - I believe something is built into lxqt-config, but
>>      language-selector-kde is also on the blueprint.
>>    - I only speak English (my Spanish isn't good enough yet), and I
>>      don't switch languages regularly, so I would like some feedback
>>      from someone who is bilingual and can test both of these
>>      applications.
> /will investigate this/

Ok, please let us know what you have found when you're done.

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>>  * Locking application: https://is.gd/Nzfnup
>>    - xscreensaver seems like a good option, but is there anything else
>>      we should consider?
>>    - Can we theme xscreensaver to look a bit better?
> /xscreensaver works fine and I see nothing unusual in its layout. More
> modules can be found in synaptic and can be installed by the user./

Oh, I didn't know that. That'll be worth looking into as well.

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>>  * Email client: https://is.gd/VEsAoy
>>    - It looks like Trojitá needs to be packaged, although that's pretty
>>      easy to do. Is everyone OK with it?
> /Thunderbird is my favorite and it is also the default in Debian 9./

Does Thunderbird have a Qt port? I use Thunderbird as well and really
like it.

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>>  * Games: https://is.gd/KDGkeI
>>    - 2048 is a fun game, I'd support keeping that.
>>    - Are there any other fun games that we could include? Do we even
>>      want to include 2048?
> /I may be stupid but w/o explanation I have no clue but what this game
> is supposed to do./

That's sort of the point of asking if we should continue to include
games. :P

>From Wikipedia:

"2048 is a single-player sliding block puzzle game by Italian web
developer Gabriele Cirulli.

...

The game's objective is to slide numbered tiles on a grid to combine
them to create a tile with the number 2048."

>>  * Task manager: https://is.gd/IT5HwT
>>    - qps seems like a decent task manager, although I'd like to make
>>      sure there's no better alternative.
>>    - I personally really like htop, although that doesn't have a GUI.
> /I also like htop which is the first thing I install on a new distro.
> But (contrary to lxde) lxQt doesn't start it from the menu. It can only
> be started from the terminal.//
> /
Oh, interesting. I didn't know that.

On 7/6/17 10:25 AM, Alf Gaida wrote:>
>>  * Network management stack: https://is.gd/bKdlIp
>>    - dhcpcd-ui has a Qt port we can use.
>>    - The upside to that is we would have the same underlying stack as
>>      stock Lubuntu.
> dhcocd-ui is dead in the water and Qt4 - no commit since 2014. So it must be
> fixed for usage with Qt5 - Qt4 and Qt5 mixed is uncool - and not exactly
> lightweight.

I've seen a Qt 5 port somewhere that can be fixed up. I really think
this is worth looking into. For now, we can keep with
network-manager-gnome and nm as it works fine.

>>  * Web browser: https://is.gd/niZhiV
>>    - Qupzilla is the best option at this time.
>>    - We won't open this up for discussion because it could turn into an
>>      endless flame war, and Qupzilla is good for what we need it to do.
>>      Ultimately, people can install whatever web browser they wish.
> qupzilla deoend on QtWebengine - which is basically a outdated chromium.
> Security support?

I'll have a conversation with the Debian Qt/KDE Team and see how Debian
does it.

>>    - Audacious has a Qt port that we can eventually get packaged.
> Audacious is packed in debian with qt support - but one can consider both
> functionality and packaging for Qt only at least beta.

Ok, good to know. I think we might end up going with SMPlayer anyways.

>>  * Printer management: https://is.gd/tOtPFp
>>    - There are no options here and I don't know what to pick.
> best bet is system-config-printer - but it is GTK, no Qt port, unless
> one port
> the KDE KCM Module

Good to know, mind adding it to the blueprint?

I have a printer so I'll be able to test this out myself.

>>  * Scan application: https://is.gd/AbuRo8
>>    - There are no options here and I don't know what to pick.
>>  * Text editor: https://is.gd/lKv3BB
>>    - Is there any progress on porting Juffed to Qt 5? I really don't
>>      think we should have anything Qt 4-based on the ISO.
> Juffed is Qt5

Ok, then I don't have a concern with using it.

>>  * Email client: https://is.gd/VEsAoy
>>    - It looks like Trojitá needs to be packaged, although that's pretty
>>      easy to do. Is everyone OK with it?
> There is a reason why Trojita is not in debian yet. Unstable and can only
> send not encrypted mails - receiving encrypted mails works fine with
> latest git

I'll probably package this for my own use and see if it works for me. If
(and I say "if" here) I can get it usable enough to be able to ship,
I'll talk to you about getting it in Debian. But Joern on the blueprint
is saying that he used it for a solid three months without problems, so
I'd like to see for myself if there are any issues.

>>  * Task manager: https://is.gd/IT5HwT
>>    - qps seems like a decent task manager, although I'd like to make
>>      sure there's no better alternative.
>>    - I personally really like htop, although that doesn't have a GUI.
>>
> qps is right now the only available choice in Qt 5

Ok, then we might just go with that.


Thanks everyone for your feedback!

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