[lubuntu-devel] Fwd: Fwd: Missing Intel graphic drivers on 16.04
Jan Holtman
oulik.jan at gmail.com
Tue May 10 20:08:51 UTC 2016
Nio suggested to mail you with some interesting test results, testing
Lubuntu 16.04 with an old Intel graphics controller. (945 series)
The testing machine is an older Lenovo T60 laptop,
See attached screenshot (data produced with:System profiler and benchmark)
I did two tests, see below for the "test report"
As we know by now there are three possible solutions to get Lubuntu 16.04
to work with old Intel graphics chips, like *945 series* (Intel Corporation
Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev
03) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller , or VGA compatible controller Intel
Corporation Atom Processor D4xx/DSxx/*N4xx*/NSxx Integrated Graphics
Controller), see screenshots in this post, data made with system profiler
and benchmark.
There are three possibilities
1) Nomodeset option. Not very good, graphics don't look good.
2) UXA option. Works, graphics is reasonable, but only one screen
available. the second screen doesn't seem to work on my test machine
3) server-xorg-video-intel option. Graphics is the best, performance on
playing video was the best.. Also only one screen available.
Tests were performed on an older Lenovo T60 laptop. with T2400 processor, 4
Gig ram
Xubuntu 16.04 on the internal hard disk, Lubuntu 16.04 on the external hard
disk
I did two tests, first test I compared the performance with two videos
1280x 720 resolution, one H264 encoded .mp4 and the second a H265 .mp4
encoded video also 1280 x 720
Here are the results.
I did the test with UXA and I uninstalled server-xorg-video-intel
(effectively comparing option 2 against option 3
The cpu load with taskmanager was slightly higher with UXA acceleration on
Gnome Mplayer as well on the H264 as well on the H265 encoded video
However the video rendering is definitely less smooth with UXA acceleration
on the H264 video. Especially with a person walking next to a window the
rendering was more jerky. It was clearly noticeable.
On the H265 video on the H265 video the difference was even more. Quite
jerky with an average CPU load of around 55%, before with the
xserver-xorg-video-intel the CPU load was around 50%
On VLC the difference was even worse the H264 which worked a bit jerky
before was now extremely jerky and the H265 video simply got stuck
*Conclusion: from the test results I must say that that
xserver-xorg-video-intel gives the best results*
Also I compared on the same machine the performance between Xubuntu 16.04
and Lubuntu 16.04 with the* xserver-xorg-video-intel *option (same videos
as mentioned before).
Two videos tested, H264 encoded .mp4 and H265 encoded .mp4, they are 720p
videos 1280 x 720 (encoded with Shotcut)
Lubuntu 16.04 plays both videos fine with the native Gnome Mplayer, both
H264 and H265
On VLC only the H264 video plays but jerky, the H265 video doesn't play
well at all.
On Xubuntu 16.04 the H264 video plays fine with the native Parole player
The H265 video plays very jerky with the native Parole player
On VLC both videos don't play well at all.
*Conclusion: Lubuntu 16.04 with the xserver-xorg-video-intel works better
playing movies than Xubuntu 16.04*
Met vriendelijke groet / Best regards,
Jan Holtman
oulik.jan at gmail.com <1%3Aoulik.jan at gmail.com>
<2%3Ajan.holtman at live.com>
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund at gmail.com>
Date: Tue, May 10, 2016 at 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: [lubuntu-devel] Missing Intel graphic drivers on 16.04
To: Jan Holtman <oulik.jan at gmail.com>
Hej Jan,
Thank you very much for this test :-)
I suggest that you share the results (also specifying the graphics chip)
1. with the Lubuntu mailing lists and Julien
lubuntu user list <Lubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
lubuntu-devel <lubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>
and the Lubuntu main developer
julien Lavergne <gilir at ubuntu.com>
2. in your thread at the Ubuntu Forums.
(I want *you* to get the credit for the testing. By the way, my tests with
my old IBM Thinkcentre ranks the methods in the same way.)
-o-
This means that I will make a new Lubuntu system with
xserver-xorg-video-intel
that I will recommend as the first choice. The UXA system might work in
some cases, it might still be available as a second choice.
I intend to make a tarball for the One Button Installer and a compressed
image file (for several cloning tools, e.g. mkusb).
Med vänliga hälsningar
Nio
Den 2016-05-10 kl. 19:21, skrev Jan Holtman:
> Hello Nio
>
> I did the test with UXA and I uninstalled
>
> The cpu load with taskmanager was slightly higher with UXA acceleration
> on Gnome Mplayer as well on the H264 as well on the H265 encoded video
> However the video rendering is definitely less smooth with UXA
> acceleration on the H264 video. Especially with a person walking next to
> a window the rendering was more jerky. It was clearly noticeable.
> On the H265 video on the H265 video the difference was even more. Quite
> jerky with an average CPU load of around 55%, before with the
> xserver-xorg-video-intel the CPU load was around 50%
> On VLC the difference was even worse the H264 which worked a bit jerky
> before was now extremely jerky and the H265 video simply got stuck
>
> Conclusion, from the test results I must say that that
> xserver-xorg-video-intel gives the best results
>
>
> Met vriendelijke groet / Best regards,
>
> Jan Holtman
>
> oulik.jan at gmail.com <mailto:1%3Aoulik.jan at gmail.com>
>
> <mailto:2%3Ajan.holtman at live.com>
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund at gmail.com
> <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Jan,
>
> For the test the first command is enough. Then you still have the
> package and can reinstall without downloading it again.
>
> Best regards
> Nio
>
> Den 2016-05-10 kl. 18:22, skrev Jan Holtman:
>
> Hi Nio
>
> Do I uninstall xserver-xorg-video-intel in the normal way?
> Do I enter these two commands?
> sudo apt-get --purge xserver-xorg-video-intel
> sudo apt-get autoremove
>
> Are those the two commands?
>
> Met vriendelijke groet / Best regards,
>
> Jan Holtman
>
> oulik.jan at gmail.com <mailto:oulik.jan at gmail.com>
> <mailto:1%3Aoulik.jan at gmail.com <mailto:1%253Aoulik.jan at gmail.com
> >>
>
> <mailto:2%3Ajan.holtman at live.com
> <mailto:2%253Ajan.holtman at live.com>>
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Nio Wiklund
> <nio.wiklund at gmail.com <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com>
> <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com>>>
> wrote:
>
> Hello Jan,
>
> I think you have a good strategy to make a good test.
>
> Best regards
> Nio
>
> Den 2016-05-10 kl. 07:13, skrev Jan Holtman:
>
> Hi Nio.
> It looks like it is a good move indeed.
> Tonight I will the other option as well.
> Just one thing to have an accurate comparison, and save
> some time it
> would maybe better to uninstall
> xserver-xorg-video-intel at the
> existing
> system and to rename *OLD__xorg.conf__OLD *back to
> *xorg.conf*
> Then we have an accurate comparison, what do you think?
> Because
> the same
> software is installed with the same programs codec etc.
>
> In the past I did hardware and software testing in my
> previous job.
>
> One last thing: As you know there is only one screen
> available
> with both
> the UXA option as well with the
> xserver-xorg-video-intel option.
> I will try to test tonight.
>
> If needed I will test the downloaded image with make
> usb as well
> (if I
> have some time left)
>
> Met vriendelijke groet / Best regards,
>
> Jan Holtman
>
> oulik.jan at gmail.com <mailto:oulik.jan at gmail.com>
> <mailto:oulik.jan at gmail.com <mailto:oulik.jan at gmail.com>>
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> <mailto:1%253Aoulik.jan at gmail.com>
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>
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> <mailto:2%253Ajan.holtman at live.com>
> <mailto:2%253Ajan.holtman at live.com
> <mailto:2%25253Ajan.holtman at live.com>>>
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 6:35 AM, Nio Wiklund
> <nio.wiklund at gmail.com <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com>
> <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com>>
> <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com
> <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com> <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com
> <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com>>>>
> wrote:
>
> Hello Jan,
>
> It sounds like a good move to install
> xserver-xorg-video-intel :-)
>
> Best regards
> Nio
>
> Den 2016-05-09 kl. 22:11, skrev Jan Holtman:
>
> Hello Nio
>
> I did some testing, here are partial results.
> First test I did a comparison between Lubuntu
> 16.04
> with the
> xserver-xorg-video-intel' and Xubuntu 16.04 as
> is,
> because they
> are both
> installed on the same machine Xubuntu on
> internal hard
> disk and
> Lubuntu
> on external hard disk.
>
> It is on old machine with a T2400 CPU
> Two videos tested, H264 encoded .mp4 and H265
> encoded
> .mp4, they are
> 720p videos 1280 x 720 (encoded with Shotcut)
>
> Lubuntu 16.04 plays both videos fine with the
> native Gnome
> Mplayer, both
> H264 and H265
> On VLC only the H264 video plays but jerky,
> the H265 video
> doesn't play
> well at all.
>
> On Xubuntu 16.04 the H264 video plays fine
> with the native
> Parole player
> The H265 video plays very jerky with the
> native Parole
> player
> On VLC both videos don't play well at all.
>
> Conclusion: Lubuntu 16.04 with the
> xserver-xorg-video-intel' works
> better playing movies than at least Xubunt 16.04
>
> Tomorrow evening more testing, because I have
> limited time.
> I have prepared another hard disk for the
> other image, UXA
> version will
> try to do this tomorrow
>
>
>
>
> Met vriendelijke groet / Best regards,
>
> Jan Holtman
>
> oulik.jan at gmail.com <mailto:oulik.jan at gmail.com>
> <mailto:oulik.jan at gmail.com <mailto:oulik.jan at gmail.com>>
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>
> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 8:14 PM, Nio Wiklund
> <nio.wiklund at gmail.com
> <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com> <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com
> <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com>>
> <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com
> <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com> <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com
> <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com>>>
> <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com
> <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com>
> <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com
> <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com>> <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com
> <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com>
> <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com
> <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com>>>>>
> wrote:
>
> Yes please, Jan,
>
> It would be nice if you can find any
> difference in
> performance between
>
> - UXA acceleration
>
> and
>
> - xserver-xorg-video-intel
>
> and maybe both. Maybe you can play video
> or some other
> demanding task.
>
> And when you have finished testing,
> please share the
> results with
> the Lubuntu User mailing list and the
> developer Julien
> Lavergne.
>
> Best regards
> Nio
>
> Den 2016-05-09 kl. 20:07, skrev Jan Holtman:
>
> Hello Nio
>
> I did install
> 'xserver-xorg-video-intel' on the
> external hard
> disk which
> had the UXA solution on it.
> Then I installed Krusader on this
> external
> hard disk (with
> Lubuntu 16.04
> for root access file commander.
> I renamed the */etc/X11/xorg.conf* to
> *OLD__xorg.conf__OLD *so
> it would
> definitely not be recognized.*
> *
> Then I rebooted the machine with the
> external
> hard disk. it
> worked but,
> it boots normally into Lubuntu but I
> don't have a
> second screen.
> Even ARandR will not see the second
> monitor
>
> It looks to me that we are definitely
> on the
> right track.
> If you want me to install the other UXA
> version as well on
> another hard
> disk I will do that, i just need to
> clear the
> external
> hard disk and
> copy the data on another hard disk.
>
>
>
> Met vriendelijke groet / Best regards,
>
> Jan Holtman
>
>
>
>
>
>
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